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Originally posted by sboulema
hhahha this thread will go one forever *sigh*
well you're not helping
Originally posted by Geffy
*me abandons thread
/me abandons thread with geffy
DON'T CALL ME BACK HERE
Originally posted by sboulema
hhahha this thread will go one forever *sigh*
Originally posted by Geffy
*me abandons thread
Originally posted by Geffy
*me abandons thread
Originally posted by Sazar
that is such typical un-hero like behavior
Originally posted by o_87
Also, did anyone notice that the password that Trinity typed was Z10N1010
The 'Z10N' part is obvious, and 1010 mean '5'.
Taken from -->here<--Morpheus reveals that there was a man born inside the Matrix, who had the ability to modify the construct as he saw fit. He was the one who freed the first of them and told them the truth. “But as long as the Matrix exists, the human race will never be free.” After that man died, the Oracle prophesized his return. That is why some of them have spent their lives searching the Matrix for a “Jesus Christ” figure, who would come with the destruction of the Matrix, end the war and bring freedom to mankind.
Originally posted by gonaads
Now just to put a lid on this... If or if not Neo failed a test of character as Dealer says really is irrelevant. Why? Because as they have put soooo many time in both movies, "Is he THE ONE?", "He is THE ONE" etc...
The definition of "THE ONE" in these Matrix movies, if you remember is the one that will lead them to defeat the Machine. The one that will manipulate and destroy the "construct". Not the one to do everything on his own.
Taken from -->here<--
Now you see that there were previous "THE ONEs" before Neo, he is ver 6. It never goes into any character crap, so he could be a total D!ck and still be the one they are looking for.
Now Dealer is using that scene (the kiss) as a character assasination, and to this end that Neo is not THE ONE... Fine. That is his perogative. But it doesn't have anything to do with Neo being or not being THE ONE. According to the so called "profecy" his character traits or flaws are irrelevant, they never not once come into question. So Dealer can rant and rave all he wants. And yes, the writers of this story made it the way. They did because this is the way they want it to be. Good script or bad is yet to be seen. The jury is still out on that... we gotta wait for the third movie to fully understand the whole story.
Now as to this new kid that is always following Neo around. It (Reloaded) did not show him with any unusual traits/power over the Matrix and Trinity does not manipulate the Matrix in any special way, except for what has been taught to her and and the uploaded programs on weapons, tactics, combat and so on they get when they are in the Matrix... soooooo, either of them being THE ONE???
And Dealer, as for my standard(s) for Christ is really of no concern to you. It is just an example since you use the "Savior" of humanity thing and brought that form of characterization into this. This is not a religion thread. He (Jesus) was human, he had power over people, he moved people's ideas about faith religion and there way of life, he brought someone back from the dead and cured people and he died. He had his faults just like any other human being. He was God or the Son of God, fine. But nothing in this Universe is perfect... nothing. Even an omnipotent being is not perfect. Just because you can reform the world or create life does not mean you are perfect, it just means that you can do some seriously incredible sh!t.
As for Neo, Trinity,Morpheus, Smith and all the rest, we will have to just wait and see. Anything else we say is and forever will be "speculation".
Originally posted by o_87
Also, did anyone notice that the password that Trinity typed was Z10N1010
The 'Z10N' part is obvious, and 1010 mean '5'.
Originally posted by gonaads
Interesting, since according to the "Architect", this is version 6. He did say to Neo that they have destroyed Zion before. And that they had become exceedingly efficient at it. Hmmmmm...
Originally posted by o_87
Makes me suspicious about Trinity..
Originally posted by dealer
gonaads thinks he can put a lid on this by saying he's putting a lid on it
hehe
no
gonaads, your entire post agrees with everything I've said...I'm surprised you don't realize it.
I AGREE...NEO IS THE ONE THAT THE COMPUTER MADE UP
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THIS?
HE IS THE ONE, OF MANY OF "THE ONES" THAT THE COMPUTER USES AS A PUPPET...this is made clear.
but he is not the savior of mankind...that is left for someone else.
now, of you want to put a lid on this without calling me back here, then go ahead.
but if you want to call me back in here, I will come
Originally posted by dealer
I agree with you o_87
and I think too many people want this kianu guy to be the savior, so they will find a way to do it.
but if this is good writing, he is not the savior.
but I'll say again, I suspect the writers will fall to the will pf the populace, and let neo be the savior
Originally posted by dealer
gonaads thinks he can put a lid on this by saying he's putting a lid on it
hehe
no
gonaads, your entire post agrees with everything I've said...I'm surprised you don't realize it.
I AGREE...NEO IS THE ONE THAT THE COMPUTER MADE UP
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO AGREE WITH THIS?
HE IS THE ONE, OF MANY OF "THE ONES" THAT THE COMPUTER USES AS A PUPPET...this is made clear.
but he is not the savior of mankind...that is left for someone else.
now, of you want to put a lid on this without calling me back here, then go ahead.
but if you want to call me back in here, I will come
sorryy dealer, you can't yell your way into being right.