Re: how do ne refineries help oil shortage?
Sazar said:
As is now obvious, supply is NOT the issue. Refining capacity and demand is the issue.
the price of gas goes according to the price of supply, NOT according to our ability to refine product, and refining product has nothing to do with our delema...the only problem with our dilemma is supply...refining capabilities are resolved in the market by the private industry itself
this industry has decided on it's own that it's better for them if they buy refined product rather then do it themselfs...
our only problem is supply...opec raises the price to supply, the price goes up, OPEC lowers the price the to supply, the price goes down
absolutely NOTHING will change if industry increases our capacity to refine crude...supply is the only issue...we can ALWAYS correct the liability in our ability to refine crude if they need to increase their capability
refining capabilities are evolving exactly how they are are supposed to evolve in the private sector
when this market demands that this industry increase it's need to refine crude, that will happen...NOTHING is stopping companies from investing in them selfs NOTHING....the industries own personal choice according to their own business model...THEY decided what they want to spend money on......now they want ME to buy them stuff?
let them buy their own stuff
refining issues, and new technology issues are resolved according to the market, not according to the old;
"I want to get a free ride, and I don't want to pay for my new stuff"
"I want everyone else to pay...why should I invest in myself when my pal is in office and can get everybody else to do it for me"
right now these companies have decided it's more feasible to buy product already refined then to build the facility they need to build...that's the way the economy is SUPPOSED to work and it's working...that's the decision this industry has made FOR ITSELF
they want to get everybody else to pay for their new facilities since they can get their pal in office to go along?
so what you are saying is that I have to buy these facilities for these companies and I don't get to own a piece of the company ? ! ?
huh?
what?
what kind of Marxism is that?
what kind of welfare ?
giving free reign so that an industry doesn't have to pay what they are supposed to pay when they want new stuff is a strategy that costs us MORE not less
and I'm not talking about "in the future" only, it cost us more from the very start.
it's not ANY kind of strategy for our future or present
of course it costs THAT industry less...the rest of us WILL pay the bill for that buck THEY put in their pocket at the expense of your wallet
are we gonna do the same thing for whoever else doesn't want to pay their rent just because they are Bush pals?? how this;
"I don't want to pay for air conditioning my business, I think you should pay it...this way I can make more money...let me call my pal the president"
"I don't want to buy the new tools I need to fix cars...you have to buy them for me so I can make more money...let me call my old pal"
or more on point;
"I don't want to clean the crap I leave on your yard, the grudge I dump into your drinking water, and I don't want to clean the air I frig up, this way I can make MUCH more money then even what I'm making now, and that's a good thing...let me call my good old pal"
and even more on point
"I want to break the law, I don't want to follow the laws you passed cuz I don't like them...I want exemption, and I know the president
"I don't care that you passed the law to force me to clean my crud...I don't care that you did it to protect your children and the future of your country...I want to break the law and my friend is the president"
I can make more money if I call my good old Budd the president"
I don't want to give these big profitable businesses welfare...we just got rid of the big welfare bill...who wants to pay a bigger bill of welfare?
this industry is running what's SUPPOSED to be a bussiness....if they can't invest in their company they need to go out of business.
they need pay the cost of their own investment and pass the expense on to their consumer... or make less money...one or the other
well, not always in this case...if your buddy is in office, then you get the middle class to pay your bill, you won't even have to pay them back
I maintain, refining is not the issue, supply is the issue