Son Goku
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Sazar said:yes... and I am free to suggest that karl rove is the mastermind behind the flip-flop analogies simply because that is the way he operates...
he questioned mcCain's mental capabilities and strengths while he ran for the republican nomination... his fingerprints were all over the insinuation that mcCain had fathered an illegitimate black child... its a classic case of hit hard with insinuations without ever having to deny anything and its his calling card...
kerry waffles... undoubtedly... bush waffles more so... and karl rove is the scum @ the bottom of the barrel on the lowest rungs of unscrupulous characters in america...
I've spoken about Karl Rove on several occassions, and of late saz has mentioned him. Perhaps a few things are worth mentioning, concerning just who Rove is, and what sorts of actions he's capable of.
No doubt at this point saz would be in a better position to find out about Karl Rove then I have been. Rove's main base of operations had been Texas, and what happened to the state of Texas in the time he worked there as a political operative. Rove has done some work in the state of New Mexico (where I have lived the past 7 years), as some have told me on occassion. saz now lives in Texas, and much of the record (as well as the consequences to his involvement in Texas politics) is there...
A few things worth noting, which show just how scumy Rove is (much of what I'm mentioning, was brought up in the book Bush's Brain: How Karl Rove Made George W Bush Presidential:
- During one of the elections, after Rove's candidate defeated the democratic contender, Rove continued to send unsolicited but very negative "job recommendations" to every firm the candidate tried to seek employment from. Beating her in the elections wasn't enough, he was intent on preventing her from finding employment in the private sector as well.
- Karl Rove's office had been bugged during one election, and it was at first treated as a major media event "Watergate all over again", and the contender to Rove's candidate implicated. However, a few twists were to emerge, when the story grew rather quite, though the damage was already done.
The FBI had their own investigation on the bugging and discovered a few things. Contradictory to the story the Democrats bugged Roves office several weeks ago, the FBI found that the battery only had enough juice to power the thing for a much shorter period of time and that out of the 6 volts potential in the battery, 5.6 volts still remained. It was their conclusion that the bug had only been activated for a couple hours at most. Either the bug had been put in that office that morning, or someone turned it on only that morning. Either way, it didn't seem the culprit cared if the bug listened in for very long...
Only way it could have been there for longer, is if there was someone on the inside who kept changing that short lived battery.
In the FBI's final conclusion, they concluded that either Karl Rove bugged his own office, else the security firm he hired to detect it installed the bug themselves. This is where the story grew quite, but not before the damage was done.
Oh, and one final note: Around this time Karl Rove raved about the movie Power and how great it was. He remembered all the minor details with equisite detail that highlights his iron clad memory for facts and figures. However, despite his practically photographic memory for every minor detail, coudln't seem to remember the main plot of the movie. ala a political bugging, and the consequences. Nonetheless, the main plot of the movie he couldn't remember, is the exact scenario that ironicly played out in his own office.
- He routinely called a particular agent "Greg Hampton (perhaps it was Rampton)" of the FBI to investigate opponents to his candidate. Oh and a neighbor (as I remember it was a neighbor of his) who asked him to remove a structure Rove built on his property, ended up in prison for a petty offence compared to the sorta stuff Rove has pulled. Not sure if that was the guy who ended up in prison with Rove's special touch, for something he didn't even know about, where the real culprits who were in the know weren't even brought in to testify.
There is more, but that's enough... There are reasons I described him as an utter amoralist. Even former friends (from high school, ala McCain's political advisor in the last election) aren't exempt from his vindictiveness; the result being he switched to being a political advisor in the Democratic party, because Rove purportedly made it quite clear the Republican party wasn't big enough for the both of them, after 25 years, and over no real wrong...