Mozilla.org Discussion (Mozilla, FireBird, Thunderbird, etc)

[gonaads]

Originally posted by Vector
On a side note, here's a question that I've never been able to find the answer to. Maybe someone here knows. Why is Firebird's cache always cleared automatically when the browser crashes?

I think it's pretty much that it doesn't remember anything when it crashes... Kinda like if yer usin PSP or PhotoShop and it crashes in the middle of doing something when it crokes, goes tits up, bits the big one, etc... It goes brain dead, gets amnesia and gets wiped.

 

[Vector_One]

Ahhh ... ok. Well, now it's beginning to make a little bit of sense. Firebird must save the cache files only if the browser session is ended normally. When you shut down Firebird by actually closing it yourself (clicking the X, or File -> Exit), some function must be called that preserves (or saves) the cache for the next session.

But if the browser ends unexpectedly (like a crash), this function is not called, so the cache is lost.

Well, that makes sense if that's the case.

 

[SPeedY_B]

Anyone know if this can be changed.. Take a look at the attachment and look at the fonts on the left of the posts, on some sites this is worse and makes the site un-usable unless you Command/+ the window to make fonts larger

This is running on OS X, and I know it's basically the fonts, but does anyone know of a FB setting that could make it usable again?

 

[SPeedY_B]

Ahar, never mind, found it

Pref > General > Fonts & Colours

 

[NetRyder]

Ooh, hope you got that fixed. Looks like the fonts in a non-XFT Linux build =\

 

[NetRyder]

Update: Thunderbird (the mail client) users...
Version 0.4 has been released. Go nuts

Release notes here

 

[SPeedY_B]

Very cool, will have to download it later

 

[X-Istence]

I will have to compile it. w00t.

I also need to compile thunderbird from source, whoever compiled it on Linux did a bad job, and its showing some measures off a lot.

 

[gonaads]

Originally posted by NetRyder
Update: Thunderbird (the mail client) users...
Version 0.4 has been released. Go nuts

Release notes here

Works very nicely, loads better, very smooooth. Most impressed.

 

[sk8caliguy00]

whats the difference between mozilla and mozilla firebird?

 

[NetRyder]

Originally posted by sk8caliguy00
whats the difference between mozilla and mozilla firebird?

What's the difference between Mozilla Firebird and Mozilla?
Mozilla (Application Suite) is a complete suite of web related applications, such as a browser, a mail/news client, a chat client and much more. Mozilla Firebird is just a browser, which makes it a better choice if you already have a mail client for example. Also, since Mozilla Firebird is smaller than the whole Mozilla suite, it's faster and easier to use.

Note, though, that Mozilla Firebird is not just the standalone Mozilla browser. The user interface in Mozilla Firebird differs from Mozilla in many ways. For example, Mozilla Firebird has customizable toolbars.

http://texturizer.net/firebird/faq.html#q1.3

 

[Leo154]

Edit CSS Plugin.

Best.

Ever.

 

[Heeter]

Hi Guys,

I still find that Firebird is loading web pages really slow as compared to Avant. Sometimes it is painful to watch pages load. Even with creating a user profile. Also, I can only download one item at a time. I would like to be able to download several items at a time. How?

Heeter

 

[gonaads]

You can DL as many things as you want... Every time you start a DL it will open a new DL progress window or it will list them in the DL manager.

 

[Vector_One]

Whether you can download 2 or more files at the same time is sometimes server dependant. Many sites don't allow people to download more than 1 file at a time.

 

[NetRyder]

Originally posted by Heeter
Hi Guys,

I still find that Firebird is loading web pages really slow as compared to Avant. Sometimes it is painful to watch pages load. Even with creating a user profile.

Have you added the page rendering tweaks to your user.js file?
If not, add the following lines to the user.js file in your profiles (C:/Documents and Settings/Administrator/Application Data/Phoenix/Profiles/default/xxxyyyzzz.slt/ ... excuse the slashes, I'm in linux right now) folder, or create a new file with that name if it doesn't already exist:

user_pref("content.notify.backoffcount", 200);

user_pref("content.notify.interval", 100);

user_pref("content.notify.ontimer", true);

user_pref("network.http.max-connections", 128);

user_pref("network.http.max-connections-per-server", 48);

user_pref("network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-proxy", 24);

user_pref("network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server", 12);

user_pref("network.http.pipelining", true);

user_pref("network.http.pipelining.firstrequest", true);

user_pref("network.http.pipelining.maxrequests", 100);

user_pref("network.http.proxy.pipelining", true);

user_pref("nglayout.initialpaint.delay", 0);

 

[NetRyder]

Just a heads up to the rest of you using nightly builds:
Get the 20031208 build. Lots of bug fixes in the download manager, as well as other parts of the browser.

Direct Download
Windows: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla....2003-12-08-06-trunk/MozillaFirebird-win32.zip
Mac: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firebird/nightly/2003-12-08-02-trunk/Firebird-mac.dmg.gz
No Official Linux build. See the MozillaZine forums for unofficial builds.

 

[Heeter]

Thanks Netryder,

I did have some of those in the js file, but not all of them. Will try that.

It has been two weeks now since switching from Avant. I really like this Firebird browser, a lot. I really like the fact that it could be as I really want it. I do like the Profile folder to "custom" make my own browser. Hopefully the new js additions mentioned by Netryder will fix my lagging loading times. Still gotta figure out why Firebird is still downloading one item at a time though. Might be just the few servers that I was on, I will try out other sites to confirm.

Thanks,

Heeter

 

[Vector_One]

Heeter:

The tweaks NetRyder suggested may help with the 1 file download problem as well.

These:

user_pref("network.http.max-connections-per-server", 48);

user_pref("network.http.max-persistent-connections-per-server", 12);

 

[NetRyder]

Yeah, they might help, but as far as I remember, Firebird could support more than one download at a time even without those additions.
Even then, hope they work for you