your post is missleading...the article and the links to the article continue to point out that the exit polls clearly indicate kerry wins ohio and floridaThe threads in question are here and here if you want to check them out.
By the by, perris, the story you posted to start this thread cited this page as a source for its arguments. That page has now been corrected to say this:
CLARIFICATION: THIS REPORT HAS BEEN LARGELY DEBUNKED BY A DETAILED ANALYSIS RAW STORY COMMISSIONED BY A FORMER MIT PROFESSOR, USING A LARGER SAMPLE AND WITH AN EXACT UNDERSTANDING OF ALL STATES USING ELECTRONIC VOTING. PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK TO THE UPDATED STORY.
This article has been removed by the editors. Given a professional statistical analysis which reached an opposing conclusion, we felt it was too misleading to leave up; the above linked article clarifies the information and story in question.
Corrected story here. The larger-sampled exit polls actually showed higher gains for Bush. In the interest of truthfulness, the article has been corrected to reflect the more in-depth research.
of course the fat lady has sung...Bush is the president for the next four years...these discussions are simply academiathepatriot said:Perris, I love ya man, but don't you hear that fat lady singing?
Interesting that this report - http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~adamsb6/elections/ - specifically fingers the optical scanners in Florida.
Also intersting in Florida is that, as of this writing, there are 138,567 MORE votes for President than people who turned out to vote. One might expect FEWER because some people might not vote for President, but MORE? I’m sure some smart guy somewhere has a statistical explanation for this, but it don’t make no sense to me.
LOL!perris said:of course the fat lady has sung...Bush is the president for the next four years...these discussions are simply academia
I love you too...are you busy friday night?
Yes, but the Subway vote went entirely the other wayTuffgong4 said:I heard the fat lady won florida and Ohio, oh yeah and she got the vote of the dunkin donuts headquarters
Screech 'bout sums it up.Zarband said:Fat lady already sang a few years ago at the super bowl remember? That is.....if you could consider it singing......more like the wailing death screeches of a beached beluga whale....
perris said:here's an interesting post from one of the links unwonted supplied...verry troublesome if true
unwonted, I don't know if the info that that poster sited is accurate or not.Unwonted said:No more troublesome than anything else on the site. I provided links to a left-wing publication; troublesome news that makes Bush look bad is to be expected.
Yeah I think if the table was turned I would be just as upset if my canidate had possibly won by fraud and not "by the people". Why has nothing been done on a national level? I just don't see how we can push elections on others when we can't even do one that is 100% accurate (or at least close). Also how could none of these "problems" be figured out in the 4 years since the last disaster? Going from punch cards to machines that were known to have issues of dropping votes, counting backwards, adding invalid votes, having exploits, being unstable, ect. is just unacceptable for an election on a national level.perris said:it also points out that there are people that just don't care how Bush won, just that he won.
this is where we are today