The "pencil" trick!?

Discussion in 'Benchmarks & Performance' started by pok_pok_911, Jan 27, 2005.

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  1. pok_pok_911

    pok_pok_911 go the AMD!!!

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    ive heard about the "pencil" trick but have never seen a forum on how to do it they all are using epoxy where do i find how to overclock using a pencil!

    Any ideas?
    thanks

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  2. pok_pok_911

    pok_pok_911 go the AMD!!!

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    oh and what does it do! how much does it change it by?
    sorry bout being a bit of a noOb!
     
  3. emeritus

    emeritus Beware the Monkeys!!!

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    The pencil trick was used just to unlock certain Athlon CPUs. They've even made conductive tape strips to be used, instead of pencil. Its been a while since I've read about that trick. If I find it, I will post the link here for you.

    Here it is: http://www.motherboards.org/articles/guides/41_1.html
     
  4. Tuffgong4

    Tuffgong4 The Donger Need Food!!!! Political User

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    the pencil trick works on other things like volt modding graphics cards as well. It's not really the best thing to do unless you are 100 percent sure what to do and get the info from someone is also 100 percent sure...

    and that avatar pok pok is about to give me a seizure
     
  5. American Zombie

    American Zombie Moderator Staff Member Political User

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    That does not work on newer XP CPU's so what you have to do on newer ones is a pin mod. Do a search for "pin mod" and you should find some info on how to do it.
     
  6. emeritus

    emeritus Beware the Monkeys!!!

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    Just a note, this was used on older Athlon & Duron CPUs. Not what you have now. You should be able to tweak the FSB and/or multiplier on the motherboard, if the motherboard is capable of it.
     
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    It only works on the very, old original Athlons (not on XP, not on Barton). Then with the faster Athlons you had to use conductive paint (rear defogger repair kits, PCB repair pen, etc.).

    When the first XPs and Bartons came out you did not have to unlock them. The latter XPs and Bartons could not be unlocked with any method. ( I got stuck with a Barton that will not unlock.)

    Then there was the jumper wire between 2 pins on the socket trick. Again that does not work on my Barton.

    That leaves you with overclocking the FSB which might give you 10-15% depending on the type and build of Athlon you have. Make surte you can change your FSB independently of the AGP clcok or you can toast a video card.
     
  8. pok_pok_911

    pok_pok_911 go the AMD!!!

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    ok guys thanks for that i know how to do the pencil but too bad i have a AMD 2600+!!! damn o well have fun with my avatar! lol!
     
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    LordOfLA Godlike!

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    I beileve te pen trick still works you justhave to take a scalpel to the chip first.
     
  11. suicide_pact

    suicide_pact ---pro a.v. geek

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    I thought the pencil trick was something women do to tell if they need bras or not. Guess my mind's in the gutter.
     
  12. ShepsCrook

    ShepsCrook Red Sox Fan!

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    Yeah, if you don't know what you're doing then I don't suggest actually doing it. The wire mod and pin mod is tricky sometimes. The easiest way to do it is to take a piece of wiring, strip one of the singular strands from that wire, and cut it short I'd say about 10mm. Then you check for the pin mod somewhere on a site and what it needs to connect too, there should be a reverse pin mod also. That's where you put it in the sockets instead of wrapping around the pins. The Socket one is the absolute easiest.
     
  13. LeeJend

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    Actually if a woman fails the pen test it's too late to worry about wearing the Bra. Time and gravity are harsh.
     
  14. pok_pok_911

    pok_pok_911 go the AMD!!!

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    ok lets give away the women thing
     
  15. Weasel

    Weasel Define 'Cynical'

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    You all do know the pencil trick was just to bypass the clock lock on the really old Athlons and nothing more. It was solely for overclocking purposes and cannot magically make your chip faster just by putting some lead between some connections and then not doing anything. It's pretty pointless to overclock but I'll get on that later if someone really wants to hear my rant. :)
     
  16. pok_pok_911

    pok_pok_911 go the AMD!!!

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    :) please rant it will be interesting go on:laugh:
     
  17. ShepsCrook

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    It's pointless to get more for your money? Ahhh I see. So I should spend another $500 on different processor that I can get with the processor I have now.

    I just saved myself $500 and I have a more powerful processor then what I paid for. To me, that's just the first point.
     
  18. Weasel

    Weasel Define 'Cynical'

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    $500? What are you buying, a brand new Opteron? Why do people always feel the need to buy the latest and greatest bleeding-edge hardware when something like a Barton or Sempron would be perfect and a lot cheaper? "It makes the games run better" Alright, but how much faster if you docked the proc down a few hundred megahertz? Not much. Worst case scenario, you have to buy a new proc, motherboard, and ram which I can't see totalling $500 unless, like previously stated, you bought the latest bleeding-edge hardware or a crapload of ram.
     
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    ShepsCrook Red Sox Fan!

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    Here is what I'm referring too. If I were to buy my processor now, it would cost me: $239 for the AMD64 3200 939 90nm. Now, my processor is presently overclocked to 2.4ghz as opposed to it's stock 2.0ghz. At 2.4ghz I'd be spending $630 on the AMD64 3800 939 chip. So by overclocking I would have saved myself $400 (roughly). Not too bad. Now since my Powersupply isn't able to handle everything properly, I have a drive and 3 case fans that are disconnected to make sure my system has enough power to be stable. If I had a better powersupply which is part of my upcoming upgrade, I could go to 2.6ghz or higher. That would make my processor the same speed as the AMD64 4000. Which is currently priced at $719. That's pretty close to the $500 marker.

    Now instead of handing over $719 for a processor which will become outdated within the next few months. I was able to save myself nearly $500 by purchasing a lower level processor and overclocking. Now that's just the money reason.

    As far as practical use. With a higher speed, I can launch programs faster, extract and encode files faster. Sure, the difference is only a matter of seconds. A minute tops. But it's satisfying to know I have that extra speed in there.

    For lifespan, Instead of my processor becoming a lower level processor as newer programs come out, my processor will give me that much extra time where it can run and utilize those programs for me to move onto my next upgrade.

    I don't condone the purchase of the latest and greatest processors and technology. Any true overclocker rarely does. You wouldn't be overclocking if you did. Not saying that the latest and greatest can't be overclocked. But a lot of overclockers look at overclocking as a way of achieving the latest and greatest without breaking your bank account. Whereas other overclockers like to break their bank account to achieve what is so commonly refered to as... the E-Penis factor. Breaking benchmarks with latest and greatest overclocks. I find that to be assinine.
     
  20. pok_pok_911

    pok_pok_911 go the AMD!!!

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    o man thats deep lol well hope you dont go and blow the crap out your computer, having said that you are getting sheite more power out of that wish i new how to do that easily im too scared to blow my comp up coz i will have to pay up! o well have fun over clocking hope all goes well with it!!
     
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