NetRyder
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Of course not! Haven't you heard? Firefox was created by demi-Gods. It transcends the realm of all errors...rushm001 said:Could happen to any program, even Firefox.
...supposedly.
Of course not! Haven't you heard? Firefox was created by demi-Gods. It transcends the realm of all errors...rushm001 said:Could happen to any program, even Firefox.
American Zombie said:If you think IE is messed up you could try IEFix.
yea i know but i still prefer it betterxtweaker said:I know you're only half joking here, but Linux crashes too you know... it's not all 100% fullproof like you guys like to say it is!
Just put as many applications as you put on Linux as you put on a Windows PC and we'll see how rock solid stable it will be... If Linux was as stable as you guys say it is, there wouldn't be as many package updates all the time
LordOfLA said:Okay lets get one thing straight. If an applciation or as in this case an extension of Ie was trying to access memort space allocated to another process withour read permission you would get an Access violation not an application error.
Application Errors indicate that the application code itself is corrupted.
If you would now like to set about proving that mechanical switches do not stick go right ahead.
Mastershakes said:That is something I didn't know. I figured Windows would be more demanding if anything, UNIX being so efficient and all. I'll find some stuff to read on it. Very interesting.
xtweaker said:Since when is RAM mechanical?? I didn't know RAM had moving parts? Unless I didn't get it right, a Transistor Switch opens/closes by voltage saturation... Not by a mechanical intervention? How can this get stuck?
I'm not saying it can't ever happen, but I'd like to have some more information about that, and not from your own mouth... Could you give me some links to KB articles or online manuals that explain this behavior? I'm seriously curious about that.
Thanks.
Dublex said:RAM isn't mechanical as far as I know.. I will dig out the A+ hardware extract that I have about RAM. (I've just done / passed the A+ cert as well so its stuck in my memory atm). From what I remember RAM is all controlled by eletcricty flow, voltages and transistors. Its possible a transistor may not hold a charge but I can't see how it would get "stuck" either.
xtweaker said:Thanks X-Istence, one rep for you That explains it better. It's sort of what I ended up understanding from the reading I did since my post, but the way Lord said it wasn't as clear.
xtweaker said:I'm not doubting that there can be invalid reads/writes in the RAM caused by stuck bits or bits where he value is flickering due to a bad transistor that can't hold its charge properly anymore...
But I highly doubt that it's the problem David is having with his, since I really think it would give errors for other programs, not just IE!
xtweaker said:David told me he did do a spyware sweep and didn't find any, but he hasn't repaired IE yet using IEFix... and he had trouble with the memtest, so I sent him more detailed instructions on how to make the bootdisk. We'll see how that turns out.
I couldn't figure out how to use the memory tester thing. I'll try again later when I have time to read through the site.
That error message has only showed up a few times and usually several days apart.
I ran all my virus and spyware programs, but they didn't find anything.
If I am able to figure out for sure what the problem is I'll be sure to let you know.
David
Mastershakes said:Lord: Please back up your assumptions with actual links. This little flame war is getting out of hand, and you've done nothing to support your opinions on this issue. Makes it easy as pie to refute them with my right hand man, Mr. Google.
Mastershakes said:Please stop referring to 'mechanical' there is nothing mechanical about 'electronic' RAM
Time to learn: http://computer.howstuffworks.com/ram1.htm
Still gonna use mechanical as a way of describing this functionality? Fine, but go to dictionary.com and read the definition, you may be out of context.
Mastershakes said:Lord, you are still way off. For the last time, it's not hardware.
It's software. Sorry Tweak got you all excited. Please read carefully.
Mastershakes said:I don't use iefix, but I use a functionality it provides, reinstalling via the ie.inf trick. Saves a time wasting re-image. No mem test or replacing RAM.
Mastershakes said:I still havn't found any evidence that Windows can correct a memory mismatch 90% of the time, but my technet searches are slowly being refined. If I find something to back up this assumption, I'll post it.
xtweaker said:LordOfA, thing is David said it happened more than once, not just that ONE time. It's highly unlikely that IE would try to read the exact same memory cell with a wrong bit more than once after several reboots don't you think?
xtweaker said:...but it would give more symptoms than the same error coming from the same program even after multiple reboots. Do you understand my logic here? RAM gets flashed when a PC is shutdown, and as far as I know, chances that Windows will use the exact same memory cell for the exact same piece of code twice in a row after the RAM has been flashed, are very slim if not impossible...