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Vista MCE and other Un Microsoft formats

Dark Atheist

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not a fan of cccp - i have ffdshow installed and all formats play fine, its just that MCE cant handle the containers, i know there are reg entries and such but i cant find the links i had, i have mkv working under x64 :)
 
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not a fan of cccp - i have ffdshow installed and all formats play fine, its just that MCE cant handle the containers, i know there are reg entries and such but i cant find the links i had, i have mkv working under x64 :)
I don't mess with MKVs but in order to playback files in MCE if you are running x64 then the installed decoder must also be x64. Ignoring things like ffdshow and codec packs, an example would be that in order to playback XviD in Vista x64 MCE you'd need an XviD x64 codec. Having a 32-bit compiled XviD codec installation on the system would work outside of MCE but since MCE is 64-bit under Vista x64 then you couldn't play XviD files in MCE. Installing XviD x64 or ffdshow x64 would allow XviD playback but unfortunately playback using ffdshow x64 results in very stuttered and bad playback which is totally unwatchable IMHO but it does let playback actually start whereas the 32-bit ffdshow doesn't work at all under MCE. This is one of the few annoyances I have with Vista x64 but thankfully I rarely make use of MCE so I don't run into the problem very often.

It's a pain to find an official XviD x64 compiled binary, too. It's unfortunate that I don't have all the tools to compile it myself.
 

Dark Atheist

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MCE is 64-bit under Vista x64 then you couldn't play XviD files in MCE. Installing XviD x64 or ffdshow x64 would allow XviD playback but unfortunately playback using ffdshow x64 results in very stuttered and bad playback which is totally unwatchable IMHO
dont know what system you have but latest ffdshow x64 works fine on all my systems and xvid doesnt stutter or cause me any issues and plays fine in mce

then again i wouldnt expect any stuttering on a quad core.

I have had mkvs and such playing in 64bit mce before i just cant find the link to the reg entries i need to add
 
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dont know what system you have but latest ffdshow x64 works fine on all my systems and xvid doesnt stutter or cause me any issues and plays fine in mce

then again i wouldnt expect any stuttering on a quad core.

I have had mkvs and such playing in 64bit mce before i just cant find the link to the reg entries i need to add
I have a Q6600 with 8 GB of memory under Vista x64 with an ATI 4870. I cannot get ffdshow x64 to not stutter with XviDs. If I use the x64 compile of XviD everything is smooth. This is the only situation I've run into playback problems with anything.
 
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Dark Atheist

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old ffdshow, which when i used it before i had some issues which were fixed in an updated ffdshow.

I'll just google the links again, bound to find them somewhere
 

indyjones

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I have never had a problem with CCCP, however I tend to use the K-Lite codec packs. Neve ever had a problem with them and come bundled with the excellent real alternative and media player classic, there is also a X64 bit version :) Also the installer is very detailed, if you dont want something untick it :)
 
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old ffdshow, which when i used it before i had some issues which were fixed in an updated ffdshow.

I'll just google the links again, bound to find them somewhere
Maybe I'll try an older ffdshow x64 release. I installed the compile version released today. I'll try going back and see if older versions work.
 

Dark Atheist

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k-lite codec pack is a load of ****e, and comes packaged with things it shouldnt

Maybe I'll try an older ffdshow x64 release. I installed the compile version released today. I'll try going back and see if older versions work.
try the x64 builds from clsid - i have had no issues with them
 

indyjones

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k-lite codec pack is a load of ****e, and comes packaged with things it shouldnt
Again I have never had an issue with any of the codec packs from K-lite, I tend to use the mega codec, plus the Q-Lite alternative as quicktime is not going near my PC.

I am successfully running K-lite codek packs of WinXP, Vista X86 and Vista X64
:p
 

Johnny

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I tend to agree with carpo to an extent. Which is why I always used vista codecs. It only has the essentials. Although, I have never had a prob with K-Lite - Either way, they will both allow you to play whatever format you want in MCE, and any other media player you may chose ...
 

Dark Atheist

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I have a Q6600 with 8 GB of memory under Vista x64 with an ATI 4870. I cannot get ffdshow x64 to not stutter with XviDs. If I use the x64 compile of XviD everything is smooth. This is the only situation I've run into playback problems with anything.
and i have the same as you and everything plays fine so your issue lies else where, if your telling me a quard core cant play an avi your system needs a swift kick up the ass.

Anyway i have it all workng fine, ffdshow x64 and a few registry entries and MCE can see the files, and it wasnt a fact about the codecs mce just didnt know how to read the container formats
 
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and i have the same as you and everything plays fine so your issue lies else where, if your telling me a quard core cant play an avi your system needs a swift kick up the ass.

Anyway i have it all workng fine, ffdshow x64 and a few registry entries and MCE can see the files, and it wasnt a fact about the codecs mce just didnt know how to read the container formats
I haven't seen any of the registry fixes. Maybe that is part of my problem.

On a sidenote, I found something very odd with ffdshow x64. If installed and I have MCE not fullscreen it stutters and halts but audio is fine. If I go to fullscreen and have the mouse on the screen and the playback controls are viewable it plays fine. The second I stop any mouse activity and the playback controls vanish from onscreen the stuttering starts up again. It is beyond weird. With the XviD x64 codec installed this didn't happen. It's baffling to me and, yes, I always use clsid's ffdshow binaries be it the x86 or x64 ones. :)

I refuse to get into codec packs. I either install the real thing like DivX, XviD, etc, or ffdshow. No CCCP, K-Lite, etc, will ever touch my system.

Could you please point me in the direction of the registry entries involving MCE and non-native containers?
 

Dark Atheist

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[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.mp4]
@=""
"Content Type"="video"
"PerceivedType"="video"

both of them are strings - not dwords

keep changing that for the extensions you want, i would also suggest updating vista and ati drivers, as i feel thats where the issue may lay
 
#18
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.mp4]
@=""
"Content Type"="video"
"PerceivedType"="video"

both of them are strings - not dwords

keep changing that for the extensions you want, i would also suggest updating vista and ati drivers, as i feel thats where the issue may lay
Thanks for the info. :)

I have everything fully updated for my hardware and Vista. I never screwed around with installing Fiji, however, since it was never truly "officially" for download.
 
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I've been busy with work and another system upgrade so I didn't have a chance to post back again. I am running a Q9550 now. :D

I tried a bunch of different things and nothing seemed to really fix my problem with MCE x64. I resorted to using the x86 ffdshow-tryouts and the 1.2.1 XviD x64 codec. Everything is working beautifully now for my needs.
 

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