Son Goku
No lover of dogma
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It's all good... And wrt AMD, many of us had done little different when the Athlon was not yet released. I remember sitting on the Intel developer forums in the late 1990s, and mentioning Athlon and what was slate...
Then there were those who were like "this is Intel, how could a half pint company like AMD do anything". My responce was essentially "I'm not so sure guys. We're not necessarily talking the AMD of old; and given the engineers they acquired from the DEC team, and also the partnership they were forming with Digital for things like the EV6 bus..." Thing is, Digital did not see Intel as a competitor (outside of Itanium possibly, and they were determined to try to nip that possible threat to their market space in the bud). They saw Sun Microsystems as a competor, and other mfg's of 64-bit RISC processors like the RS6000. They were more then happy to liscense dynamic execution from Intel, so they cold add it into the EV6 proc, but...
Funny was how Intel's PR rep came into work at like 3 am on New Years, and had an official PR statement with which to try to counter both my posts, as well as the posts of a couple other guys on this. In the end, and after the release of the Athlon. And in the PR statement, about all they had to say was Intel's the bigger company, the Athlon isn't released, so you should all wait and see. Signature had the guy as Intel public relations... Beyond that, little substance.
The rest was history up till now... The PIII didn't easily clock beyond 1 GHz, so AMD beat Intel to the 1 GHz milestone, and the P4 was released with Willemette before all the things orginally slated for it got implemented. No doubt as a reaction from Intel's marketing, but it also resulted in the 1.5 GHz Willy under-performing the 1 GHz PIII in bench after bench. Then again, I knew some people who were not only Intel certified partners, but also were Alpha (as well as UltraSPARC) system builders, and had the ear to the ground both wrt Digital, and their upcomming partnerships with AMD at that time...
It's all good, and just as reasonable for people to mention wrt Conroe, as we did wrt Athlon in the year or so leading up to it's release. :up:
Oh, and yeah, I remember em old computers. Those were the days when 128 KB of RAM was touted as a big thing, and the sales guy was telling my father all the great things one can do with 128 K... In 1981 or 1982 it didn't seem laughable, today people would laugh
Also the days when a second floppy drive was considered a big innovation, as most PCs didn't have hard drives, and a second floppy meant one didn't have to swap between their DOS floppy, and the floppy holding the program on it. Oh, and yes, em monochrome monitors of em days also...
Then there were those who were like "this is Intel, how could a half pint company like AMD do anything". My responce was essentially "I'm not so sure guys. We're not necessarily talking the AMD of old; and given the engineers they acquired from the DEC team, and also the partnership they were forming with Digital for things like the EV6 bus..." Thing is, Digital did not see Intel as a competitor (outside of Itanium possibly, and they were determined to try to nip that possible threat to their market space in the bud). They saw Sun Microsystems as a competor, and other mfg's of 64-bit RISC processors like the RS6000. They were more then happy to liscense dynamic execution from Intel, so they cold add it into the EV6 proc, but...
Funny was how Intel's PR rep came into work at like 3 am on New Years, and had an official PR statement with which to try to counter both my posts, as well as the posts of a couple other guys on this. In the end, and after the release of the Athlon. And in the PR statement, about all they had to say was Intel's the bigger company, the Athlon isn't released, so you should all wait and see. Signature had the guy as Intel public relations... Beyond that, little substance.
The rest was history up till now... The PIII didn't easily clock beyond 1 GHz, so AMD beat Intel to the 1 GHz milestone, and the P4 was released with Willemette before all the things orginally slated for it got implemented. No doubt as a reaction from Intel's marketing, but it also resulted in the 1.5 GHz Willy under-performing the 1 GHz PIII in bench after bench. Then again, I knew some people who were not only Intel certified partners, but also were Alpha (as well as UltraSPARC) system builders, and had the ear to the ground both wrt Digital, and their upcomming partnerships with AMD at that time...
It's all good, and just as reasonable for people to mention wrt Conroe, as we did wrt Athlon in the year or so leading up to it's release. :up:
Oh, and yeah, I remember em old computers. Those were the days when 128 KB of RAM was touted as a big thing, and the sales guy was telling my father all the great things one can do with 128 K... In 1981 or 1982 it didn't seem laughable, today people would laugh
Also the days when a second floppy drive was considered a big innovation, as most PCs didn't have hard drives, and a second floppy meant one didn't have to swap between their DOS floppy, and the floppy holding the program on it. Oh, and yes, em monochrome monitors of em days also...
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