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Originally posted by wyrlwyn
i have heard(and still here) about compatability issues with ati hardware, i have witnessed it with the aiw, and have read aobut it with the updates to the 9700. i give props to ati for having fast silicon, but, nvidia hasn't had a problem with beating the compeditiors to the highest speeds... sure, they are about 20% slower then the 9700, but, the r9700 was release a few months later then the g4s. we all know how it works, the latest release is the fastest, then the next, which is faster... we all know that once we see the gf fx rip ati a new one, we(well, i already do) will all want one of them, casue no one is going to want a "seconf best".
all i can say is, we go for the best, and even if someone makes a slitly slower card, its better then any of us can do, unless some one here fabs 3d accelerator chips in there basements, but i'd like to see them pull off 300+ fps in quake 3.... i give ati and nvidia props for revolutionizing the industry, with the g4 ti 4600, r9700, the xbox, and the game cude.
there are always issues m8... what irks me and has always irked me is the pr that nvidia employs than goes around and counter-acts what it says... example... all nvidia people were up in arms about the extra power connector on the r300 cards... I have yet to hear a peep from nvidia PR groups about their very own extra connector or the massive fan they have... when the ati solution was criticized for its large HSF...
I'll take your post step by step... nvidia has always had some of the fastest cards in terms of frame rate... but ati always has the lead in terms of quality... in fact the best looking graphics are probably from Matrox... once you play performance settings on a gf 4ti card and then a radeon card such as the 8500 onwards... you will see what the difference in quality really is...
the radeon 8500 was released to compete with and best the g3... but that NEVER stopped anyone from going ahead and comparing it to the gf4 ti series in every single benchmark... therefore it is only fair for the gf4 ti series cards to be compared in tests 1-1 with the r300 based cores... its just the way the market works...
about the gf FX besting the r300... no doubt it should... after all it is using newer technology and will have been in development NOW for around 9 months more at the time it is released... in its initial form.. no it would not have been an r300 beater.. nvidia knew this as well... at the moment nvidia is one 6 month cycle behind ati... since by the time the nv30 comes out... the r350 should be ready for release and by the time the nv35 comes out the r400 will be ready per the product cycles in place now...
concerning hardware problems.. the one that everyone was talking about was agp8x problems... but this is nothing to do with ati cards... it is SiS chipsets that have the problem for the most part... driver reviosions and bios revisions have fixed most issues with stuttering et al that came about...
ati has had little to nothing to do with the gamecube btw just wanted to throw that out... it was develot by ART X or some such company... ati just bought the company and thats that... nvidia developed the gpu inside the xbox on the other hand...