Son Goku
No lover of dogma
- Joined
- 14 Jun 2004
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I think we're at somewhat of an impasse here, where quite frankly many of us are at rather different ends of the spectrum, so much so that in our respective philosophies, there isn't entirely a "common ground". I guess it's just one of those areas to agree to disagree, and to leave it to the voters in the given district to decide if they still want this school board re-elected to office.
Personally, I can find absolutely no form of agreement or justification for the school board having suspended these students. What it really amounts to, is they get suspended because they didn't nark on a given website posting; the whole while, even suggesting they do so could put their feet to the fire amongst their own classmates who wouldn't trust them "to not nark" in the future... It could also open them to ridicule, resentment, and anymosity amongst their own peers. In this, there's also an issue of losing face... Narking on friends for having just read something also presents an issue of honor itself...
As far as I'm concerned, that simply having read something doesn't make them bad, wrong, or whatever the hell else... They're being punished for what someone else posted off school property, and on their own free time, simply because they happened to read it and didn't become the school stouge... As far as I'm concerned, this was an over-step of the school's authority, and an unwarranted breach into the private lives of individuals. The school's only connection itself is that they happen to attend the same school, not wrt the act itself... I suppose, we all feel just as strongly, and none of us would likely budge on this point...
As to the parents, I will say this much... If I was one of the parents, there would be no way in hell, I would go reporting a blastid thing to them so they could suspend someone, be it my kid or someone elses, for having read something. Quite frankly, if there was something wrong with it (and feelings of dislike towards certain people, or perhaps certain actions that some people engage in, aka rightious indignation) is a part of life); I would much rather sit down and discuss the matter, while not trying to shield them from "an unpleasant aspect of reality itself", so they could understand. No way in hell, would I prefer the "punish them" cause they read something approach...
Personally, I can find absolutely no form of agreement or justification for the school board having suspended these students. What it really amounts to, is they get suspended because they didn't nark on a given website posting; the whole while, even suggesting they do so could put their feet to the fire amongst their own classmates who wouldn't trust them "to not nark" in the future... It could also open them to ridicule, resentment, and anymosity amongst their own peers. In this, there's also an issue of losing face... Narking on friends for having just read something also presents an issue of honor itself...
As far as I'm concerned, that simply having read something doesn't make them bad, wrong, or whatever the hell else... They're being punished for what someone else posted off school property, and on their own free time, simply because they happened to read it and didn't become the school stouge... As far as I'm concerned, this was an over-step of the school's authority, and an unwarranted breach into the private lives of individuals. The school's only connection itself is that they happen to attend the same school, not wrt the act itself... I suppose, we all feel just as strongly, and none of us would likely budge on this point...
As to the parents, I will say this much... If I was one of the parents, there would be no way in hell, I would go reporting a blastid thing to them so they could suspend someone, be it my kid or someone elses, for having read something. Quite frankly, if there was something wrong with it (and feelings of dislike towards certain people, or perhaps certain actions that some people engage in, aka rightious indignation) is a part of life); I would much rather sit down and discuss the matter, while not trying to shield them from "an unpleasant aspect of reality itself", so they could understand. No way in hell, would I prefer the "punish them" cause they read something approach...