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I am thinking of buying a graphic card. I am really confused which one to buy.
Ati's Radeon 9700 Pro 128Mb
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N-Vidia GeForce FX 128Mb.
Ati's Radeon 9700 Pro 128Mb
OR
N-Vidia GeForce FX 128Mb.
Posted by Zedric
Found a benchmark on Tom's Hardware:
http://www.tomshardware.com/business/02q4/021120/comdex_day_2-01.html
No comparison with 9700pro but it's a pointer.
ATI’s take on GeForce FX
The focus of our conversation with ATI was dealing with the misconceptions brought about by NVIDIA during the GeForce FX launch. ATI essentially feels that the RADEON 9700 is a more balanced solution than GeForce FX, which doesn’t have the bandwidth to perform many of the operations it’s boasting at an acceptable frame rate.
For instance, NVIDIA is proud to claim that GeForce FX boasts pixel and vertex shaders that go beyond DirectX 9.0’s specs, yet a 400-500MHz chip with 8 pixel pipelines running very long shaders would spend all of its time in geometry, bringing frame rate to a crawl. ATI feels that with RADEON 9700’s multi-pass capability, having native support for thousands of shaders is useless, as the RADEON 9700 can loopback to perform those operations. ATI ran a demonstration of a space fighter that was rendered using this technique.
As far as NVIDIA’s bandwidth claims of GeForce FX’s 48GB/sec memory bandwidth, ATI states that the color compression in their HYPERZ III technology performs the same thing today, and with all of the techniques they use in RADEON 9700, they could claim bandwidth of nearly100GB/sec, but if they did so no one would believe them, hence they’ve stood with offering just shy of 20GB/sec of bandwidth.
One other clarification is in regards to DDR2 memory support. Late last week rumors were floating around that ATI’s DDR2 demonstration wasn’t actually running as DDR2 memory. ATI reiterated that the RADEON 9700 memory controller does indeed support DDR2 and that was the memory type used in the demonstration board.
Merrill Lynch believes that board integration will delay sales of NV30 products until April quarter. This could mean the April financial quarter which is Feb, March, April for NVIDIA. Whether this refers to retail or bundled system sales is not clear. NVIDIA is sticking to their Jan/Feb story. I am also curious to know what kind of 'performance compromises' were necessary.
From the article:
"As expected, NVDIA has chosen not to use low-k dielectric on the NV-30, a decision which involves some performance compromises but also lowers the risk of any manufacturing miscues. With the part now qualified, waiting on system integrators to finish boards is the issue – that clearly is not going to happen until the April quarter."
but i think he wants the best out there. also with the fastest out there the detail settings can be turned up high in the most recent games, so it does have some payoffOriginally posted by Winter
Just get a GeForce 4Ti... as long as you have a fast processor, you won't need more than that for awhile... game companies aren't going to make games that 90% of the people can't play...
Originally posted by Jz1397-4
but i think he wants the best out there. also with the fastest out there the detail settings can be turned up high in the most recent games, so it does have some payoff
Originally posted by JSC2k03
If I were you, I would buy ATI Radeon 9700 Pro and not buy Nvidia GeForce FX .... because it will probably go bad after a month or year so on. Everytime Nvidia comes out with new graphic card...ATI always answer back with a powerful one. By looking at the pics of Nvidia, its almost look the same as the Radeon, so to me I don't see any difference in the FX and the 9700 Pro..Beside if u have the 9700 Pro, your can trade it in for a cheaper price the the new ATI graphic card comes out.