An IP Addy Disaster!

[Admiral Michael]

Sorry I made a slight error in my diagram. THe wireless router can only do 2 comps.

The MODEM uses the WAN (also labelled Internet on newer models) the rest dont. I've editing your pic to outline this, altho Im not entirele sure on the airport.

 

[Techno Child]

ok i see what you are getting at... when I link the wan port on other routers, it completely blocks off external ip access to the computers that are connected down the chain.



now, with all computers set up in a single LAN range, how do I go about using my external IP address? can it only be routed to one computer or can one computer act as the index and link files from other computers on the network?

also, why can the wireless router only be connected to two computers?

 

[Admiral Michael]

The wired router handles the internet connection. They all access the internet through one external IP, which is the purpose of an at home router. The wireless router can only have two wired clients since one port must connect to the wired router and another to the airport.

 

[Techno Child]

lol... duh ok.. i didn't realize that you were refering to the two outputs that were occupied by the wired router and the airport


ok. now how do i set it up-to where i can access an apache server on one of my comps in the network from the outside world? lets say once i set it up on a pc, how would i configure the ip address?

 

[Admiral Michael]

Ok in the wired router you forward port 80 to the IP of the machine that is running apache.

The best course of action is to assign your apache machine a static ip cause a IP change would break the port forwarding rule.

 

[Techno Child]

now see i did that before, however it must not have worked because of the three different ranges i had them setup in.... once they are in the same range then it should work without having to configure each router or the modem right?

i'm going to reconfig later today and let you know how it goes... thanks a bunch for all your help

 

[Admiral Michael]

Im not sure where your apache machine was in the network but if it was at the end that you would've had to config the other routers with port forwarding.

Also, does your MODEM handle the login for DSL?

 

[Techno Child]

yes it does... that is another problem.. when i set the ips all to the same range ie.. 192.168.1.x then i cannot access them all from a comp connected to say the airport for ex.. everything works just fine when i have them setup to 192.168.x.1

anyways for the fowarding, i can plug the "server" into the wired router so i don't have to go through the other routers fowarding stuff, it will be directly plugged into the first router-- here is a screenshot of my routing options,

 

[Admiral Michael]

I'm not quite sure what you mean by
"when i set the ips all to the same range ie.. 192.168.1.x then i cannot access them all from a comp connected to say the airport for ex.. everything works just fine when i have them setup to 192.168.x.1"


As for the router config thats a different area. Here's a screenshot of what you need.

3 - Enter IP address of apache machine
5- (not shown) click save.

 

[Techno Child]

ok.. thanks again for your help admiral, right now i'm having formatting issues with the comp i'm using as my server. once i finish setting it up i will post how it works,(if it works )

-tc

 

[Admiral Michael]

No problem. If you have any problems or more questions, don't hesitate to post back.

 

[Admiral Michael]

Any luck?

 

[Techno Child]

I haven't setup my server yet... I'm waiting for some parts... they should be in on tuesday then i'll set it all up

 

[Admiral Michael]

O, thought is was a software issue. Sorry.

 

[Techno Child]

APACHE IS UP!!! *i'm very happy...* it was very easy on mac, maybe i'll start a thread after i play around with it...


now back to the ip stuff... i'm having a problem acessing it from outside my intranet..

throughout the intranet it works just fine, however when i type my modem's ip addy into the addy bar i cannot get it to foward to the server, is there something i have to set in the modem's options?

 

[Admiral Michael]

Does the apache machine have a static IP address?

If so, you need to go into the main router and foward port 80 to that IP. If you use DHCP then I would advise using a static IP instead because when the IP chnages it will break the port forwarding rule.

 

[Techno Child]

yes... i already did that... you showed me in the last attachment you sent .. i can access it from my comps in my intranet however, when i try to access it with my external modem's ip, it just goes into the modem's settings... (login)

 

[Admiral Michael]

it could be your router doing that when an internet IP tries to access its WAN IP. What's your IP? (you can PM me if you don't wanna post it).

Also, do you have remote admin enabled for the router? If so change the port to something like 8080 cause that could be interfering with everything.

 

[Techno Child]

209.188.35.243


it's going to change anyways even though i'm trying to get it to stay static...

so is what you are saying that from inside my intranet, i will see the modem's setup, however outside on the internet, people will see the server's index?



edit: was i supposed to change the UPNP on the modem too? here is it's screenshot...


EDIT:: also here is the port fowarding screenshot...(second attach.)

 

[Admiral Michael]

I don't use UPnP, its more for auto port forwarding for prograns like MSN Messenger. I believe it can also be a security risk.

As for the Port forwarding, are you unsure how to enter the data?