interesting bluescreen events

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  1. Perris Calderon

    Perris Calderon Moderator Staff Member Political User

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    so, everyone knows I've been having trouble with vista, but this is gonna really sound freaky;

    I've been getting blue screens on a regular basis but get this...if it does happen it will almost always be a few minutes after I get home and turn my computer on in the kitchen

    now, I'm plugged in and there's not enough time for there to be an overheating issue

    so what could possibly be going on in the kitchen to cause a blue screen?

    microwave is off, refrigerator is on, stove is off, gas fired

    and of course this never happened with any other laptop
     
  2. Dark Atheist

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    vista is a bad cook and is telling you to get out the kitchen, or it could just be the usual with vista - bad update, bad drivers, check the disc for errors,might be trying to read a file and cant so it blue screens, could be mem related etc etc
     
  3. Sazar

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    Perris, this may sound weird but I have a feeling you have bad wiring in your place that may be contributing to a lot of the issues. If there are problems with current being provided to your system and if you don't have a surge protector or an older one or one that has no protection left, the spikes transfer to the unit.

    Once the components within your computer are fluctuating, it is very probable you are going to start seeing random errors related to the hardware occuring and this will likely attribute to your BSOD's.

    Either that or you have some really badly configured stuff in your system with hardware and drivers.

    Please provide a detailed listing of your entire systems components, power supply and all other parts so we can get to the bottom of this :)
     
  4. Sazar

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    Vista doesn't just BSOD. I have had 1 issue with failure to boot, and it was a new Ati driver way back when Ati was still Ati and not AMD.

    Therefore it is highly unlikely it is the usual with Vista. How is it that so many other users are able to use their vista builds without issues or, even if they have issues, without bsods and Perris has multiple bsods? That is atypical and points to something serious going on I would think.
     
  5. Dark Atheist

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    when vista was first out any and all drivers from a wide range of manufactors did blue screen vista alot, and there have been updates from ms that have hosed a vista install, i said usual, as driver fault, or hardware fault could be to blame, as i said in my original post :p

    or it could be something to do with the nylon carpet in perris's place and its a static issue :D
     
  6. Perris Calderon

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    I thought of this but it happens when on batteries in this spot as much as plugged in and don't forget my transformer acts as a surge protector

    in any event I took special note not to plug to see if it was a power issue since I suspected the same and I still got bluescreens in this spot

    carpo, I did a disc scan when this first started happening

    sazar gonna find that system info and post a log for ya
     
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  7. Perris Calderon

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    I just entered systeminfo in the run box and all I got was the cmd window collecting...it then closed with no report

    how do I generate a system info report on this os?
     
  8. j79zlr

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    type cmd in run then issue the command.
     
  9. Perris Calderon

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    got belarc advisor but would also like to do this with the native tool so if anyone knows how I get a system report would appreciate it

    anyway here's belarcs log


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    System Serial Number: CNF7235XPF
    Enclosure Type: Notebook
    Processor a Main Circuit Board b
    1.80 gigahertz AMD Turion 64 X2
    64 kilobyte primary memory cache
    1024 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: Quanta 30B9 65.28
    Bus Clock: 200 megahertz
    BIOS: Hewlett-Packard F.37 05/31/2007
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    160.04 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
    29.46 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

    LQ3391U HUC245A SCSI CdRom Device [CD-ROM drive]
    MAT****A DVD-RAM UJ-851S ATA Device [CD-ROM drive]

    Hitachi HTS541616J9S SCSI Disk Device (160.04 GB) -- drive 0 1982 Megabytes Installed Memory

    Slot 'DIMM 1' has 1024 MB (serial number 6FF05114)
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  10. Perris Calderon

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    thanx j79, here's that log

    Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
    Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

    C:\Users\solman>systeminfo

    Host Name: DUALY
    OS Name: Microsoftr Windows VistaT Home Premium
    OS Version: 6.0.6000 N/A Build 6000
    OS Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation
    OS Configuration: Standalone Workstation
    OS Build Type: Multiprocessor Free
    Registered Owner: solman
    Registered Organization: Hewlett-Packard
    Product ID: 89578-OEM-7332157-00061
    Original Install Date: 6/11/2007, 3:45:35 AM
    System Boot Time: 11/30/2007, 3:04:13 PM
    System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
    System Model: HP Pavilion dv9000 (GA358UA#ABA)
    System Type: X86-based PC
    Processor(s): 1 Processor(s) Installed.
    [01]: x64 Family 15 Model 72 Stepping 2 AuthenticAMD
    ~1800 Mhz
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    I'd asterix/remove those Windows keys asap if i was you mate :eek:
     
  12. Perris Calderon

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    thanx for the suggestion
     
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    You're welcome :) Belarc has a nifty feature that pulls up the serial keys you used to install a product and often the OEM code.
    Kinda information i'm sure you'd rather kept private :)

    On Topic: Does this same laptop behave anywhere else in this manner using the same battery?
     
  14. Perris Calderon

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    I only have one battery and I have gotten blue screens in other places but this spot in particular
     
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    Ahh was thinking a power supply issue. Loose connector or similar.

    In that case try a lower shelf in the oven, or better yet use the worktop :laugh:
     
  16. American Zombie

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    Have you turned off auto-restart so you can possibly see the error message?
     
  17. Perris Calderon

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    will get that next time it happens

    here's the thing though which leads me to believe it's the hardrive;

    sometimes it won't be able to write a dump it just sits there and I have to force it down

    I'll tell you what though;

    I'm more scared about why it's doing this in one spot in my house

    I am thinking some kind of electromagnetic field or radiation

    I can think of absolutely nothing that would make these blue screens happen in this one spot

    the dump files are being sent and microsoft is "working on the problem"
     
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    How close to the refrigerator or dishwasher? I'm thinking magnets in a motor somewhere...
     
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    What about older florescent lighting or maybe by a window with an outside security light near by that might be getting ready to come on?

    I had an old outdoor security light that comes on at dusk/off at dawn and was very noisy then after time I noticed the light would take 3 to 5 minutes to power up every evening also every evening as the light was trying to come on my monitor would flicker or worse the screen would get lines through it too the point what I was viewing was unrecognizable.

    This light is outside and 14’ away about 16’ in the air so in the end I replaced the light and the monitor was fine.
    Just a thought?

    Also strong radio signals on that side of the house? Try a room on the other side of the house for a week or two and see what happens.