don't buy from Circuit City!

[madmatt]

Yes, I know. I need to learn that.

 

[Vanquished]

I firmly believe that the way you are as a person (or company) leads to the type of people you attract in your life.

So:

a) Circuit City made a bad decision

and

b)

That's basically every attempt to persuade Vanquished...when will everyone learn?

Yeah!
I will never change my mind set about anything,
Afterall, i am republican

 

[kcnychief]

That is my sole goal... to make money, it is unfortunate that all you people will not ever be rich... I guess...

This just in, Circuit City sucks and Vanquished is rich and we are not. It is each and every person's fault on this forum that they weren't born into money, shame on us!

I'm going to call my parents as soon as they are awake and say the following....

"I've been alive for 25, almost 26 years now. Throughout all those years you have provided a stable and healthy home for myself and my two brothers. We have always had plenty of food and clothing, nice holidays and birthdays, and many fun family vacations both here and abroad. HOWEVER, it has come to my attention that because I wasn't born into money, I am not as well off both in life and in the grand scheme of things because of it. I was even told that it was "unfortunate" I would never be rich since you guys aren't loaded. Nothing was mentioned about having to earn my own way, because people don't do that. They are born into money, and leach onto their parents and act like they actually had something to do with it. You are a disappointment as parents, can I get new ones?"

Yeah, that would happen.

Being rich has nothing to do with anything. Unless of course you aren't counting money - I wouldn't trade ANYTHING I have in my life if it meant I would be rich. Sure, I would love to be rich, have all the money in the world and I wouldn't complain. As a matter of fact, I consider myself rich of sorts because of the quality of live I have had and do have to this point. I wouldn't trade my friends and family for all the money in the world if I had to give them up. I guess it just matters what is important to you really. I work for what I have in my life. Would I love to have more? Sure! Do I spend outside of my means sometimes and regret it? Sure! But I enjoy my money, I work hard for it, and it's mine. It wasn't a hand out, it wasn't given to me by someone, it's M-I-N-E. You know what the best part about all this is? I have a wonderful woman in my life who is able to pursue her dreams BECAUSE of what I do? Erica is going after a career that won't pay all that well for the next few years, but because of how well I am doing she can do it. We are better off because she loves it, and she will always love it. If the situation were different, she would have to do something she didn't like because we need the money. Being able to make the ones that you love happy is an amzing feeling, which is "unfortunate" that you may never feel. Sure, you may find a woman and be able to provide for her because of your heritage, but it won't be earned.

Seriously dude, you have gone OT and rediculous before - how DARE you say it's unfortunate that people won't have money. I'm not saying that sucks for you, because there are a lot of people who would probably like to be in your position, at least the financial aspect. But seriously, don't put others down like that. Have you actually stopped to think about that you really had nothing to do with it? Your parents built up the fortune, they had a night of pleasure and then you came along. It really has nothing to do with you, and you shouldn't rub it in other people's face. That's just rediculous.

I know I have gone off the deep end with this one, and if this is an attack I shouldn't do in public I apologize. I'm just sick and tired of you making such ignorant statements at pretty much everyone, and not ever listening to anyone else's P.O.V.

Go ahead, Ban me, at least I'll feel like I stuck up for the people.

I'm done now.

 

[Brad]

Vanq--
http://youlose.ytmnd.com/

 

[Vanquished]

Why would they ban you?
Thats why I said I guess... After the comment...
To show that it wasn't a truthful statement, and what does being born rich have to do with anything. My father wasn't born rich, in fact quite poor.
Now, just because he worked his ass off to give me a better life doesn't mean he is a bad person...
I am an engineer... So I will make 100,000 - 150,000 has nothing to do with my parents, just what engineers make.
Aside from that, you do have to leave the engineering field (if you want more money) so I will...
Hopefully I will use my engineering skills and do something else, like own my own company.

There are different types of people, those who are satisfied with what they have, and those who will never be happy with what they have, unfortunately I am the latter.

 

[madmatt]

You are an engineer? What kind of engineer are you? You went to a university and earned the right to call yourself an engineer?

 

[Vanquished]

You are an engineer? What kind of engineer are you? You went to a university and earned the right to call yourself an engineer?

Currently I am...
still in college

I will become a General Engineer with a mind towards Aeronautics, then I will get my Doctorate in Aeronautics or Mechanical/Automotive engineering.

Do not ask what school, do not ask anything personal about anything, that is as much as I will say.
With the high ranking of this site, everything is all over the net.
So I won't share anything else... Never do

 

[madmatt]

Still enrolled and going through the rigmarole? Then it hasn't happened yet. But, working towards that is great. Here is a tip: As an engineer (especially a Professional Engineer) you will need to keep an open mind. Listening to others in VERY important when it comes to professional trades; something you have shown you do not like to do.

 

[Brad]

This is very good advice. There are people out there that know more than you and you need to recognize that.

 

[bush dogg]

What people need to realize is Circuit City has done this before back in 2003 they did the same thing, all the executives learned back then was how to do it again “give the employees a false sense of security we recovered because of this then just when the items we will call employees relaxes we’ll hit em again”.

Bottom line Circuit City Executives have done this before for the same reasons and learned nothing from it!!!

As far as I’m concerned this is just Shady business practices no more no less!!! The executives at Circuit City just do business this way and that’s it.
It would be a little easier for me to stomach if this was the first time this has happened with Circuit City but it’s not the first time!!!
I can speak a little on business here, I’ve been self-employed/owned my own business for almost 29 years now.

Circuit City used this same BS speech back in 2003 “your making to much money/over scale so you have to go” if that was truly the case back then…well the Executives should have changed the pay scale polices within the company “maybe with a cap on wages per department” so this wouldn’t happen again but they didn’t now did they!!! They couldn’t have because it’s happening all over again with more good people for the same reasons “overpaid”!!!

Well all I have to say to that is BS!!! This is how the Executives seem to want their business conducted and make employees think there’s a long term future with Circuit City. “Shady business Practices is all it is”

If this was legitimate for Circuit City’s best interest then the Executive “Doing their jobs” would have corrected the pay scale problem in 2003. But they must not have it’s happening again so I guess maybe we’ll be OK until 2011 then the next round of over paid workers will have to go.


This article is from 2003

On the morning of Feb. 5, Robert Wood waited outside his Circuit City store with a handful of other employees. They had been told to report for a quick meeting before the store opened. Aware that the company was beset with financial difficulties, Mr. Wood was relieved to see that the others waiting were, like him, among the store's top salesmen.
A seven-year veteran of Circuit City Stores Inc., Mr. Wood was the second highest-paid performer at the Jensen Beach, Fla., store, moving more than $1 million in computers and consumer electronics last year, he says. He earned $54,000 in salary and bonuses, and a place in the President's Club for top salesmen.
At 10 a.m., the store manager ushered the waiting employees inside the store with a smile, saying he wanted to explain the company's new "staffing model." The first salesman went into the manager's office, then exited quickly. Mr. Wood's heart sank as the salesman cleared out his belongings from a locker and was escorted out the door by another manager. When Mr. Wood's turn came, the manager opened a packet with his name preprinted on the cover and slid the dismissal documents to him one by one. The firing took less than five minutes.
"We didn't see that coming," Mr. Wood says.
Neither did the other 3,900 highly paid commissioned salespeople the company laid off that day, which some still call "Bloody Wednesday." In Circuit City stores across the nation, sales personnel waited to hear their fate from managers. Some expected to be told that their commissions would be cut. Others thought they would be told that underperforming staffers would be fired, so they would have to work harder.
Instead, they each sat before a manager who handed them an envelope containing the terms of their dismissal. Mr. Wood and the others were faulted for nothing. They simply made too much money at a time when the company was desperate to economize. Circuit City then hired about 2,100 lower-paid hourly workers to replace Mr. Wood and the others, who had represented 20% of its sales force.
In doing so, the retailer made an increasingly common cost-saving move: swapping expensive labor with lower-paid workers. The approach, which is generally legal, doesn't eliminate the position but rather the high-paid person in it. The technique is especially attractive to service businesses such as retail. Like so many companies today, they face massive pressure to cut their labor costs. But unlike manufacturers, they have jobs that can't easily be automated or shipped overseas.

Bloody Wednesday in 2003 was it also Bloody Wednesday in 2007?

Circuit City's executives realized they could no longer afford to pay big commissions to its sales staff, while its rivals paid less. Ten years ago, Circuit City's $3.27 billion in annual revenue was twice the size of archrival Best Buy Co. But its sales approach -- small stores with limited inventory and a commissioned sales force -- proved unworkable as customers flocked to self-service stores with big inventories. Last year, Best Buy's sales hit $19.6 billion, more than twice Circuit City's $9.5 billion.
To deal with falling prices and an eroding customer base, the company examined its costs. Among its conclusions: high-paid sales help no longer fit the times. "Was it hard? Absolutely," says Jeffrey S. Wells, Circuit City's senior vice president of human resources and training. "Is it difficult for someone not close [to the situation] to understand? Absolutely." The company decided that dismissing higher-paid staff and replacing them with lower-paid workers "was the best thing long-term," says Mr. Wells.
In deciding which employees to keep and which to discard, Circuit City set strict salary caps. Based on average wages for retail workers in different cities, employees surviving the cuts would be those making $14 to $18 an hour, including commissions, or $29,100 to $37,400 a year for full-time work. "It is not the person who earned the most that was always the best," says Mr. Wells. The company says that in its fiscal 2004 it will save $130 million in pretax labor costs as a result of cutting the salesmen and about 200 repair workers.

These articles sound familiar to this years release to me

LINK

 

[Vanquished]

Still enrolled and going through the rigmarole? Then it hasn't happened yet. But, working towards that is great. Here is a tip: As an engineer (especially a Professional Engineer) you will need to keep an open mind. Listening to others in VERY important when it comes to professional trades; something you have shown you do not like to do.

Yeah.... No?
I dont think i will...
My father is an engineer and several people I know, i think I'll listen to them and so far, i havent heard that little bit of advice.

 

[madmatt]

Thank you for proving my point. Now let's get back on topic. Thank you.

 

[Vanquished]

Thank you for proving my point. Now let's get back on topic. Thank you.

What was your point?
That you think you know something that you wish to impose on me?

 

[Evil Marge]

Go ahead, Ban me, at least I'll feel like I stuck up for the people.

I'm done now.

And for that we thank you, I love you man :smoker:

 

[muzikool]

What was your point?
That you think you know something that you wish to impose on me?

I think his point was that you're not open-minded enough to even consider having an open mind.

 

[Vanquished]

And my point, is that you dont have to have an open mind to people in engineering.

 

[muzikool]

Open-mindedness is not a characteristic restricted to certain industries or trades. How could any industry evolve without out-of-the-box thinking? That would require open-mindedness.

 

[Vanquished]

Open-mindedness is not a characteristic restricted to certain industries or trades. How could any industry evolve without out-of-the-box thinking? That would require open-mindedness.

Im not opposed to open mindedness.
Frankly, I have found that people usually haven't a clue what A) You are talking about, B) What they are talking about. If i ever ask an opinion, never do i get an answer that I want, and am never any better off than i was before.
So... I just don't ask
And frankly, i don't care.

 

[madmatt]

Why do you come to this site? Are you just here to start arguements and spam with useless posts?

Now get back on topic. This thread isn't about you.

 

[falconguard]

:laugh: