Declaration of independance banned at California school

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  1. Electronic Punk

    Electronic Punk Administrator Staff Member Political User Folding Team

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    Finally, looks like politicla correctness has left the UK and headed over to the USA

    Its funny, over here in the UK every year at this time of year you hear about one more shop that bans christmas displays because they might offend...

    http://www.reuters.com/printerFriendlyPopup.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=6911883
     
  2. damnyank

    damnyank I WILL NOT FORGET 911

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    Bull $hit - and I don't need to say anymore!!
     
  3. Perris Calderon

    Perris Calderon Moderator Staff Member Political User

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    this is one side of the story, and if it stood alone and true, it's rediculous...obviously there's nothing wrong with showing the declaration, and any judge that would prohibit the display should be disbarred

    however, if you take a specific phrase or phrases out of context so that you can shove your religion down the throat of children that don't share your belief, you are desecrating our history...it kicks the founders fathers of this nation right in the grave...that's probably what's going on here...the right winged wealthy owned media love to present a story the way they want it to be interpreted

    let's wait to hear the states side of this story...one side is never enough
     
  4. Perris Calderon

    Perris Calderon Moderator Staff Member Political User

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    as far as banning christmas displays, if it's on government property, then equal attention has to be given to any religous sect that requests and expects equal protection under the government.

    otherwise you have a government sponsered religion
     
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  5. zeke_mo

    zeke_mo (value not set) Staff Member Political User Folding Team

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    i cant even think of something to say :|
     
  6. Steevo

    Steevo Spammer representing. Political User Folding Team

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    /agrees with Perris


    Seperation of state and religion? Instead I see politicians in bed with religious leaders. Churches were posts where young men would sign up for duty. The same religions on BOTH sides of a war advocating that teh government is right and you must support the cause. Religious leaders strong arming politicians to do what they want.


    I am all for religious freedoms, and I pay my taxes and do what is required. But I feel that ther is WAY too much mixing. However I don't vote so.........
     
  7. Geffy

    Geffy Moderator Folding Team

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    political correctness has simply gone mad, I personally feel wrt to the UK anyways that if people have left/fled their home country and come to the UK and then proceed to complain about things like Christmas, and English being the primary conversational and informational language then they should either keep quiet or have not come here in the first place. The english language is a core part of this country, and the christian religion, Church of England anyways, is crucially tied to our national identity and history and neither of which should be compromised simply to appease people who have come here of their own choice (I say own choice as there are countries in Europe to choose to inhabit).
    I am by choice an agnostic, but I dont go about forcing my beliefs or lack of them on other people (well except my sister, but thats more just to piss her off ;) )
     
  8. Shamus MacNoob

    Shamus MacNoob Moderator Political User

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    wow b o ll o ck s is filtered ?

    Anyways thats all I wanted to say was the big ole nasty "B" word .




    :p :p
     
  9. Geffy

    Geffy Moderator Folding Team

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    I tend to use boswellox now :p

    if you are in the UK you will probably have seen the advert with "added boswellox" if you are in the US I have no idea
     
  10. Shamus MacNoob

    Shamus MacNoob Moderator Political User

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    Well I am in the GREAT WHITE NORTH and have not seen that ad but seeing as I was born in Nottingham the word is part of my vocab.
     
  11. Evil Marge

    Evil Marge I Rule Political User

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    Bloody ridiculous :mad:
     
  12. damnyank

    damnyank I WILL NOT FORGET 911

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    ^^^ OMG - Mrs DY agrees with Marge - bloody ridiculous!!!!:eek:
     
  13. Perris Calderon

    Perris Calderon Moderator Staff Member Political User

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    private property is provate property, I can't beleive the government has a say over how the owner wants to celebrate the holidays...that is "bloody rediculous"


    as far as this point though;

    no, santa is not for everyone.
     
  14. damnyank

    damnyank I WILL NOT FORGET 911

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    Just cause he brought you a bucket of coal is no reason to disown him!!:D
     
  15. Geffy

    Geffy Moderator Folding Team

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    the general open nature and giving spirit which is represented in christmas and santa is for everyone, how can kindness be frowned upon?
     
  16. Khayman

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    Kind of thing just makes you want to go on a killing rampage!!!
     
  17. Evil Marge

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    Errr no :eek:
    Has anyone ever heard someone of a different religion actually say they are offended by Christmas??? I haven't and nobody else I have ever ask has either.

    My neighbours are from India and do not celebrate xmas but they always wish us and us back a merry christmas,they have a little boy who insists on wearing a Santa hat every year,I saw him in it this morning :D

    I remember dicussing this with them last year and they just don't understand where these people get their ideas from.
     
  18. Geffy

    Geffy Moderator Folding Team

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    exactly

    you go somewhere you should do your best to embrace or tolerate their national culture, you can bring aspects of your own culture with you and share them if you want as well though.

    heck, I was living in a house of 24 people last year and one of them was an american, we celebrated Thanksgiving with her even though its not a UK holiday, I even cooked two giant 7 or something kilo turkeys for it.
     
  19. Evil Marge

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    That's how it should be but there's always someone who has no idea sticks their nose in :rolleyes:
     
  20. ThePatriot

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    Our Nation was largely founded on religious freedom...why we consistently try to go against that belief these days is ridiculous. Teaching about our founding fathers, many of whom were very religious men, and the documentation that defined our young nation is simply practicing freedom of religion. I understand the "separation of church and state" theory, but you cannot separate the fact that God is a written part of our history.