colin powell gone?

Discussion in 'Green Room' started by Perris Calderon, Nov 15, 2004.

  1. Perris Calderon

    Perris Calderon Moderator Staff Member Political User

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  2. VenomXt

    VenomXt Blame me for the RAZR's Folding Team

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    omg.. bush is gona kill us now..
     
  3. buzzstpoint

    buzzstpoint Computervitals.com Political User

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    Of course you can expect to see a book.... They all do that.. But look. powel has done many things in his term.. So say good some ssay bad. but that not the issue.

    Not to worry there are many other waiting to get into his posisition. I feel there isn't going to be a HUGE change like some people are thinking there will be.
     
  4. Xie

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    Yeah interesting to see Bush's people drop like flys after his "relection". :D
     
  5. Tittles

    Tittles Dabba Dooba Political User

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    I was thinking that too Xie...but i have be watching the news and havent heard anybody say anything like that.
     
  6. j79zlr

    j79zlr Glaanies script monkey Political User

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    This is common btw, almost all Secretary of State's last about 4 years, if that. Condi Rice has been appointed new SOS
     
  7. jimi_81

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    so bush is gonna fight the war on terror with a set of new guys?
    why didnt they all quit before the election?

    pppssssssst (that was a rhetorical question)
     
  8. ThePatriot

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    Put in perspective:

    Source:AP

    The resignations are on a par with what other presidents who have won second terms have experienced.

    In 1984, President Reagan named a new attorney general and new Treasury, Interior, Labor, Energy, Education and Health and Human Services secretaries. In 1996, President Clinton tapped new secretaries at State and Defense as well as Commerce, Labor, Transportation, Energy, and Housing and Urban Development.
     
  9. Geffy

    Geffy Moderator Folding Team

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    Its a stressful job, can hardly blame him.
    Take for example Tony Blair, if you look at pictures of him when he first took office he looked young and full of life, now he looks almost tired and ragged
     
  10. Sazar

    Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Staff Member Political User Folding Team

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    I am sure the passage of time has had nothing to do with his appearance :D
     
  11. Son Goku

    Son Goku No lover of dogma

    I just noticed this myself... So much for suggestions that Rice would replace Rummy. Quite frankly, with Powell (described as more of a moderate) going, and if Rummy stays; I think peeps can get an idea of what "changes" we can likely expect...
     
  12. well here's someone else who couldn't take anymore of bush
     
  13. Petros

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    Cabinet resignations are far from uncommon. Some administrations have seen fifteen of them. It's just that they weren't scrutinized in the press as much. Good fact checking, j79zlr! Kids these days need to have better American Government/History classes.
     
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    Grandmaster Electronica Addict Political User Folding Team

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    Very true.
     
  15. rotjong

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    I'll say right now that I haven't read the previous replies to the initial post on this topic...

    Did anyone actually expect him not to resign during the second term of Bush?

    Powell, IMO, really never did much during the the previous term and I wouldn't have been shocked to see him resign 2 years ago. I just don't believe he was the man for this position. I respect Powell but I never could see him in this role.

    I don't think his resignation will really make a damn bit of difference [be it because he wished to resign or, as it usually works, he was asked to resign].

    rotjong
     
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    After my last post I scanned a few posts...

    Quite often and with much purpose people are asked to resign rather than being dismissed (ie fired). Do not take a resignation as a person not being able to take anymore of a President.

    Of course you could have said this in jest but I can't know whether you did or not.

    rotjong
     
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    Look at Reagan after 1 term in office. Look at Clinton after 1 term in office. This extends to pretty much every modern US President [as well as adminstration] or foreign leader. Any person in any high position will look the worse for it after a few years.

    Leadership and stress takes its toll.

    rotjong
     
  18. Perris Calderon

    Perris Calderon Moderator Staff Member Political User

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    powell made it clear a long time ago he was leaving after one term...this is his choice, not the presidents


    rice is a terrible candidate for this position and any position

    or did everyone forget that this women had the nerve to tell us "nobody could imagine an airliner could be used as a missle"

    speaking on the presidents behalf and the inteligence comunity's behalf, she had the nerve to say something as rediculous as that!!!

    this in the face of information that told her specificaly bin laden would be highjacking comercial airlines and using them as weapons with politcal and financial structures as the targets.

    like a retard couldn't figure out an airliner is a missile

    wow

    she is also the same person that had the nerve to get front of Americans and tell us that the precise warning whcih told is an attack on our soil was sure to come was a "historical document"

    this in spite of the fact that the two aids that wrote the warning told this president that this was a current threat of the highest regard, NOT historical

    how she even remains in public office is a credit to the wealthy owned media that gives her a free pass, and protects everything associated with this president

    do people remember this?...the entire defense community's "hair is on fire" as never before in their experience, and she makes beleive the intel was "historical"

    now she gets a promotion...this gets better and better
     
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    6 total so far have resigned?
    Yeah, I also read somewheres that Powell didn't plan on staying the 2nd term. I also read that he wasn't asked to leave nor was he asked to stay.
     
  20. Perris Calderon

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    he was asked to say that he would stay when he made it clear he was leaving

    he said he'd think about staying

    I can't wait to read his book...you know he strongly urged against a war on a second front

    Bush ignored that advice...and here we are today