best ipod manager?

**perris** · December 31st, 2008

what's everyone using to manage their ipod?

thanx in advance

**Evil Marge** · December 31st, 2008

iTunes, I've never felt inclined to try anything else

**perris** · December 31st, 2008

Originally Posted by Evil Marge

iTunes, I've never felt inclined to try anything else

man I hate that program, not intuitive and incredibly restrictive

**Evil Marge** · December 31st, 2008

Whatever floats your boat as they say, does everything I need it to do but if you need more you need more

**kcnychief** · December 31st, 2008

I use iTunes too for similar reasons as EM. My only beef is the way it manages the library itself, and the limitations for sharing it and using it from a network location.

As far as actually going between iTunes and the iPod, it works good enough for me.

**falconguard** · December 31st, 2008

Try media monkey, It started out as a lark for me, but handles a huge library quite well.

caveat, I don't have an Ipod, but a Sansa Fuze.

**perris** · December 31st, 2008

Originally Posted by falconguard

Try media monkey, It started out as a lark for me, but handles a huge library quite well.

Thanx, falcon

**Johnny** · December 31st, 2008

I been using anapod for a long time. It is a great program ...

http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/

**kcnychief** · December 31st, 2008

I have almost 13,000 songs. I'll have a look at the above links as well.

**perris** · December 31st, 2008

Originally Posted by Johnny

I been using anapod for a long time. It is a great program ...

http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/

thanx johnny, will give that a go too

I found this wiki page that compares itune players, they have very little anapod info so if you ever wanted to make a wiki edit now is your chance

**kcnychief** · December 31st, 2008

I have to think though - wouldn't Apple do the best job of managing a device they made? Not always the truth, but interesting thought.

legodude83089 · December 31st, 2008

I know this is somewhat unrelated but I use a program called Requiem to decrypt my iTunes purchased songs so I can play them on my Archos 5.

The author of the program actually reverse engineered iTunes to make an algorithm to find the keys and to decrypt your Music and Videos the same way iTunes does. It is completely lossless, so there is no quality loss. Currently, requiem (currently at version 1.8.2) will work on only iTunes 8.0.1 and lower, though 8.0.2 (current iTunes version) is being worked on. I highly recommend this program. Just google it.

**perris** · December 31st, 2008

Originally Posted by legodude83089

I know this is somewhat unrelated but I use a program called Requiem to decrypt my iTunes purchased songs so I can play them on my Archos 5.

The author of the program actually reverse engineered iTunes to make an algorithm to find the keys and to decrypt your Music and Videos the same way iTunes does. It is completely lossless, so there is no quality loss. Currently, requiem (currently at version 1.8.2) will work on only iTunes 8.0.1 and lower, though 8.0.2 (current iTunes version) is being worked on. I highly recommend this program. Just google it.

there's no reason to decript these files, you can go into the folder from explorer on your computer and unhide the view, copy the ipod control folder and all your songs are playable and importable from that folder without any decription needed, it's just a pain to do this manually and I would rather an ipod handler that is not itunes, they are @nal about where you play your own property

I really don't like this company's philosophy about my stuff and I don't understand why people prefer the ipod player over mp3 or any format for that matter, my frigging phone plays music better then this thing, I play my tunes straight from my smartphone and it's much more magageable

however I am probably going to get an itouch somewhere down the road so I am getting used to this seemingly archaic (to me) format

thanx for the recomendation on that itunes handler and I will surely give that a go as well

anyway, if you want more access to your tunes you have to launch itunes in safe mode, which means connect your ipod while holding shift control and keep holding while you launch itunes, it will ask if you want to launch in safe mode you hit yes and don't let go of shift control till you see the device listed in the itunes program

**perris** · December 31st, 2008

Originally Posted by kcnychief

I have to think though - wouldn't Apple do the best job of managing a device they made? Not always the truth, but interesting thought.

if that were true nobody would ever get software to run on their computer when that computer came with a native program, for instance most users here prefer opera or firefox to ie

I do a better job managing apple's hardware then they and I don't even need software to do it, they do a miserable job as far as I am concerned

I remember when I first learned to drive the first car I had was an automatic, my mom asked my why I shifted my automatic transmission, shouldn't the auto do a better job?

the answer, (obviously) was no, I do a far better job.

apple forces you to do it their way with very few choices or not enough choices for how I want to handle my own property..they, seem to have no clue what I want to do with my own stuff and I am surprised peeps here are happy with how apple wants you to handle your owns stuff however to each their own

**vern** · December 31st, 2008

I've looked at Mediamonkey and Songbird. They are decent, if you started your library with them. Right now I have almost 600GB of music, the majority of which are rated, all have tagged correctly. None of those tunes are from iTunes. I refuse to buy any of their DRM crap. Ripping my own CDs and buying from Amazon is so much easier and more portable in case I want to finally move away from iTunes. I hate Itunes, but I have yet to see a way that can transfer my ratings, my podcasts, and have good last.fm integration. Songbird 1.0 which just came out looked very promising, but it doesn't support my iPhone or iPod Touch.

The search continues.

**perris** · December 31st, 2008

Originally Posted by vern

I've looked at Mediamonkey and Songbird. They are decent, if you started your library with them. Right now I have almost 600GB of music, the majority of which are rated, all have tagged correctly. None of those tunes are from iTunes. I refuse to buy any of their DRM crap. Ripping my own CDs and buying from Amazon is so much easier and more portable in case I want to finally move away from iTunes. I hate Itunes, but I have yet to see a way that can transfer my ratings, my podcasts, and have good last.fm integration. Songbird 1.0 which just came out looked very promising, but it doesn't support my iPhone or iPod Touch.

The search continues.

you could copy and paste to see how it works you don't need to move your property, if all goes well all your tags and licenses should remain intact, if it does not go well you still have your property loaded in the itune program

you have nothing to lose by trying, simply copy instead of move

**perris** · January 1st, 2009

trying media monkey right now since they have a free version, will let everyone know how it is in a few days

**Johnny** · January 2nd, 2009

MediaMonkey is based on itunes. It does all that Itunes does, except, it will handle flac files and ogg files, which iTunes will not. It is a good program over all.

**perris** · January 2nd, 2009

Originally Posted by Johnny

MediaMonkey is based on itunes. It does all that Itunes does, except, it will handle flac files and ogg files, which iTunes will not. It is a good program over all.

ya, I'm having trouble with media monkey adding personal recordings to an existing file which I can do manually through explorer but I really want to just drag and drop, will have to try your program next

**falconguard** · January 2nd, 2009

Perris,

Only the paid version has automatic folder watch. I don't know why that is, but it is. Although, media monkey is based on I tunes it allows for Winamp plugins, especially the ASIO, output.. It handes podcasts and other things pretty decently. and is customizable as to what you wnat to show.

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perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,012 Reputation: 4333 Power: 261	Re: best ipod manager? Originally Posted by Evil Marge iTunes, I've never felt inclined to try anything else man I hate that program, not intuitive and incredibly restrictive
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falconguard Carbon based lifeform Joined: February 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,458 Reputation: 2138 Power: 128	Re: best ipod manager? Try media monkey, It started out as a lark for me, but handles a huge library quite well. caveat, I don't have an Ipod, but a Sansa Fuze.

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perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,012 Reputation: 4333 Power: 261	Re: best ipod manager? Originally Posted by falconguard Try media monkey, It started out as a lark for me, but handles a huge library quite well. Thanx, falcon
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Johnny Heart Breaker Joined: January 2004 Location: Happy Valley Posts: 4,271 Reputation: 1623 Power: 132	Re: best ipod manager? I been using anapod for a long time. It is a great program ... http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/
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perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,012 Reputation: 4333 Power: 261	Re: best ipod manager? Originally Posted by Johnny I been using anapod for a long time. It is a great program ... http://www.redchairsoftware.com/anapod/ thanx johnny, will give that a go too I found this wiki page that compares itune players, they have very little anapod info so if you ever wanted to make a wiki edit now is your chance
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legodude83089 OSNN Dude Joined: December 2005 Location: St. Louis Posts: 80 Reputation: 131 Power: 53	Re: best ipod manager? I know this is somewhat unrelated but I use a program called Requiem to decrypt my iTunes purchased songs so I can play them on my Archos 5. The author of the program actually reverse engineered iTunes to make an algorithm to find the keys and to decrypt your Music and Videos the same way iTunes does. It is completely lossless, so there is no quality loss. Currently, requiem (currently at version 1.8.2) will work on only iTunes 8.0.1 and lower, though 8.0.2 (current iTunes version) is being worked on. I highly recommend this program. Just google it.

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perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,012 Reputation: 4333 Power: 261	Re: best ipod manager? Originally Posted by legodude83089 I know this is somewhat unrelated but I use a program called Requiem to decrypt my iTunes purchased songs so I can play them on my Archos 5. The author of the program actually reverse engineered iTunes to make an algorithm to find the keys and to decrypt your Music and Videos the same way iTunes does. It is completely lossless, so there is no quality loss. Currently, requiem (currently at version 1.8.2) will work on only iTunes 8.0.1 and lower, though 8.0.2 (current iTunes version) is being worked on. I highly recommend this program. Just google it. there's no reason to decript these files, you can go into the folder from explorer on your computer and unhide the view, copy the ipod control folder and all your songs are playable and importable from that folder without any decription needed, it's just a pain to do this manually and I would rather an ipod handler that is not itunes, they are @nal about where you play your own property I really don't like this company's philosophy about my stuff and I don't understand why people prefer the ipod player over mp3 or any format for that matter, my frigging phone plays music better then this thing, I play my tunes straight from my smartphone and it's much more magageable however I am probably going to get an itouch somewhere down the road so I am getting used to this seemingly archaic (to me) format thanx for the recomendation on that itunes handler and I will surely give that a go as well anyway, if you want more access to your tunes you have to launch itunes in safe mode, which means connect your ipod while holding shift control and keep holding while you launch itunes, it will ask if you want to launch in safe mode you hit yes and don't let go of shift control till you see the device listed in the itunes program
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vern Dominus Joined: March 2002 Location: Minnesota, USA Posts: 1,579 Reputation: 660 Power: 118	Re: best ipod manager? I've looked at Mediamonkey and Songbird. They are decent, if you started your library with them. Right now I have almost 600GB of music, the majority of which are rated, all have tagged correctly. None of those tunes are from iTunes. I refuse to buy any of their DRM crap. Ripping my own CDs and buying from Amazon is so much easier and more portable in case I want to finally move away from iTunes. I hate Itunes, but I have yet to see a way that can transfer my ratings, my podcasts, and have good last.fm integration. Songbird 1.0 which just came out looked very promising, but it doesn't support my iPhone or iPod Touch. The search continues.
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perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,012 Reputation: 4333 Power: 261	Re: best ipod manager? trying media monkey right now since they have a free version, will let everyone know how it is in a few days
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perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,012 Reputation: 4333 Power: 261	Re: best ipod manager? Originally Posted by Johnny MediaMonkey is based on itunes. It does all that Itunes does, except, it will handle flac files and ogg files, which iTunes will not. It is a good program over all. ya, I'm having trouble with media monkey adding personal recordings to an existing file which I can do manually through explorer but I really want to just drag and drop, will have to try your program next
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falconguard Carbon based lifeform Joined: February 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,458 Reputation: 2138 Power: 128	Re: best ipod manager? Perris, Only the paid version has automatic folder watch. I don't know why that is, but it is. Although, media monkey is based on I tunes it allows for Winamp plugins, especially the ASIO, output.. It handes podcasts and other things pretty decently. and is customizable as to what you wnat to show.