Ok just bought this on the spare on the moment, i tried to take it back last night but it has a 14 day return policy, so i am selling it instead. I paid $80 for it i'll sell if for $50, plus shipping. I found no difference in sound from my mobo (ac97) to this, but hey if you want EAX, HD with 5.1 surround, then i guess you'll like it. Me graphics are more important. So let me know The product is boxed with all cds, plus free copy of Splinter cell that came with it. Still in anti-static bag too.