Well, I've been using an old Turtle Beach Santa Cruz in my testing/destruction machine. It's a great old soundcard and would pick it over any Creative card still today. Because it was discontinued, official drivers were never released for Vista but it was possible to get it to work in 32 bit Vista: "NOTE: Installing the Santa Cruz in Windows Vista requires that you have a separate Windows XP partition on your hard drive 1. Without the soundcard installed, install the latest drivers (sc_4193.exe) from our web site - this will install all of the software, but the drivers will fail. *** This is normal ***. Windows Vista is looking for digitally signed drivers. 2. With the sc_4161s drivers installed on another Windows XP partition, navigate to the Turtle Beach folder: (x:\program files\turtlebeach\drivers\wdm) and point the Add New Hardware wizard there manually. 3. It will then 'discover' other Santa Cruz devices. Follow the installation prompts. 4. Finish Enjoy it. Compliments of Turtle Beach Support Team but do not even think of asking any questions about this. Thank you!" Well, now that I went and installed Windows 7 64-bit, I cannot get this card to install. I'm not sure I want to go to 32 bit just to see if I can get this card to work. Think there may be any other ways (short of enabling my onboard sound that sucked)? My other "best option" would be a M-Audio Transit, but alas, it also looks like there is no 64 bit driver (and supposedly bad Vista 32 bit support anyway). I do have a few other cards but floating around but I think I'm gonna run into alot of the same problems.