Why are there still 32 bit OS's?

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  1. Heeter

    Heeter Overclocked Like A Mother

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    Hi all,

    With all of todays mobos, cpus and RAM that has been around for a long while, why is OS's still coming out in 32bit? I would think that eliminating all 32bit OS's, this would force people to upgrade to somewhat half decent hardware.

    Thanks

    Heeter
     
  2. American Zombie

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    Re: Why is there still 32 bit OS's?

    I don't think OS makers are going to force major companies to do anything.
     
  3. Heeter

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    Re: Why is there still 32 bit OS's?

    I guess your right, AZ.

    Heeter
     
  4. Geffy

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    Re: Why is there still 32 bit OS's?

    I don't see why dropping 32-bit OS's would step on anyone toes. Provided the 64-bit OS's can still run 32-bit apps there shouldn't be any problem.

    Maybe it's down to driver manufacturers though, so guess you're right.
     
  5. trukkmann

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    Re: Why is there still 32 bit OS's?

    64-bit OS's can't run 16-bit apps which some legacy software that some businesses depend on would be too costly to upgrade, time consuming, complicated, etc.
     
  6. Re: Why is there still 32 bit OS's?

    I worked for a period at a one of the largest supermarket chains in Canada. The inventory and stock control system they used in the warehouse was dated 1988.
     
  7. tdinc

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    Re: Why is there still 32 bit OS's?

    Cost, Why should someone be forced to buy new hardware. In a way its unfair, What if they cant afford to?...If someone has a perfectly good laptop that runs fine, but has to upgrade just for 64-bit?.. thats silly.
     
  8. Dark Atheist

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    well ms has said it will stop 32bit os's soon, so we will see wont we :)
     
  9. Perris Calderon

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    I believe the solution should be ms and other os for profit compilers continue support for 32 bit operating systems and don't publish any new

    of course open source would still be developed no matter what
     
  10. Johnny

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    Windows 7 will be the last 32 bit os that MS comes out with ...
     
  11. epk

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    Well.. cos 64 bit doesnt improve performance for lots of people, and in some cases, it even decreases it

    so, until its absolutely necessary, theres no harm in having dual builds
     
  12. ElementalDragon

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    Re: Why is there still 32 bit OS's?

    Well.... the REAL reason is probably because not systems/CPU's support 64-bit. Most notably is Intel's Atom processor used in damn near every single netbook on the market right now. And seeing as netbooks are quite popular, not releasing a 32-bit OS would be shooting themselves in the foot for that entire market.
     
  13. Heeter

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    Wow, I didn't know the Atom was a 32bit cpu.

    Thanks, ED


    Heeter
     
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  15. Perris Calderon

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    Re: Why is there still 32 bit OS's?

    but if new operating systems were made exclusively 64 bit the processors would follow, the reason they're developing 32 bit processors is the fact that the operating systems are still being written
     
  16. ElementalDragon

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    I'm actually thinking it's more along the lines of the fact that they're probably cheaper to design in some way, shape, or form, if they don't support 64-bit. If they made an operating system that was STRICTLY 64-bit in a time where 32-bit CPU's were still used in quite large numbers, they'd be shooting themself in the foot. Probably why Windows 7 is supposedly going to be the last OS in a 32-bit flavor. Gives Intel/AMD time to create 64-bit cpu's to go in netbooks and everything.
     
  17. Shamus MacNoob

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    Big Corps like where I work have so many programs that will not run in Vista let alone 64bit they are no where near going 64bit ...
     
  18. Geffy

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    I'd forgotten about stone-age 16bit apps, that said I'm not saying they couldn't run those on older hardware, if your OS and hardware works theres nothing forcing you to upgrade it to something 64-bit capable.

    As pointed out 64-bit isn't a speed booster, but it will be more efficient with memory addressing. Another benefit is that in many 64-bit OS's the time_t C type is actually a 64-bit type rather than a 32-bit type, this should mitigate the Y2038 timestamp overflow issue.

    I reckon OS development should be focused on 64-bit, this would send a message that all older apps would need to be replaced when upgrading to newer hardware.
     
  19. ming

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    I've tried Win7 on Atom N270 eee box and boy I really hate to say this but I think 99% of all people who might buy a netbook/nettop with an OS that's newer than XP will find that they'll regret making the purchase.
    Don't get me wrong, it is capable of running the newest OS WITH the Aero theme or whatever it's called, but be warned that you need a lot of patience for applications/webpages to load or become the active window if you run more than 1.
    The Atom N270 scored a very low 2.3 on the Window Index rating thing.

    The newest and future Atom processors will all be 64-bit capable so I don't actually see the point of continuing to design OSes in 32-bit especially Windows Oses.
     
  20. ElementalDragon

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    ming: yeah.... and last i checked, the Asus EeeBox is designed to be an ultra-slim form factor computer that you can basically attach to the back of a TV. Kinda like an EeePC without the screen. Judging by that.... it probably also suffers from the EeePC's flaw.... 5400rpm laptop hard drives. I slapped my OCZ Core v2 SSD in my EeePC 1002HA, and installed Windows 7 on it.... it moved pretty well.

    And i wouldn't exactly say "The newest" Atom processors will be 64-bit. THE newest Atom processor, the N280, which was JUST released last month according to the link i previously posted, is also one that's not 64-bit. Future Atom netbook processors.... maybe.