I just re-downgraded to .02. I have had rzrs in 03, 02, 04 over 03 and 04 over 02. in all possible configurations, 04 is -extremely- more likely to fail to initiate a data call than either 03 or 02. If we wait for Verizon to fix this, in like, 05, (optimisticaly) $10 says they gut obex and MPT-compatibility too. It's like, what a changed value or maybe the 'dithering' logic between Ev and 1x mode? I did notice when I 'forced EV-DO' once, things began seriously to suck. All this observed in one location. EV-DO never works well here... hm... possible clue? My .04 phones -do- try to use EV first then switch to 1x before giving up. My 03 phones also try EV, switch to 1x, *then succeed, every time*.... Hypothesis: Does .04 have problem switching to or using 1x? Wish I knew enough to properly investigate this... guess I'll have to start readin', heh heh.