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/read some of the text of what the president had to say and agree with alot of it
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Sazar said:Good for you.
Bush's proposal does indeed have a coupla good ideas. The problem is that the entire idea he has is basically prolonging the inevitable rather than actually changing things so those that rely on SS are not receiving the short end of the stick
His proposal will still lead to a collapse of the system but he will be able to prolong it for a bit longer. What is the point in spending trillions of tax payers money if the end result is STILL the same?
This is why even with some good ideas in there, the entire proposal itself is bogus. There is a very good reason there is a lack of support for his plan even amongst conservatives.
I don't think anything should change for anyone that allready is in the workforce...these people have been promised a return and this government needs to honor the promises it makes to it's citizens...nothing less then what we were promisedSazar said:Perris, you obviously have not read up on the proposals or what is being used as a basis.
I will wait till a FINAL draft is made on the proposal because currently, anyone making 20K or more a year is considered "Higher Income" and I sure as hell hope you are not saying that giving them fewer benefits is a good idea
melon said:My solution to Social Security: raising the income ceiling to $200,000. Currently, only the first $85,000 of someone's income is taxed on Social Security. So if you make millions and millions of dollars a year, you're still only getting taxed on the first $85,000.
This would be the easiest way to make SS solvent, but Bush will do nothing to piss off his wealthy campaign contributors.
now that is a point I haven't seen anywhere else...excellant!..rep comingfalconguard said:This is an interesting debate, in 20 years the life cycle of the baby boomers will be on a downward trend.
also an excellant pointiowaboy said:and don't forget that the social security fund has been raided by congress many times to pay for their pet projects. If even part of the money was paid back the fund could also be solvent again..
And the next time the north declares a "Snow Emergency" and need millions of tons of salt.. I'm in Jacksonville, FL (notice you are from Monroe, MI... 75% of my family lives in your city) I understand your thinking, but there are disasters that happen all over the world. FEMA is being investigated right now for fraudulent payouts last year. Hopefully that will resolve some of the issues with spending. Heck, we sent more money across the seas to the vicitims of the Tidal Waves than we sent to FL...The next time Florida has 5 hurricanes, they can pay for it themselves. After all, welfare is bad bad bad, so why should the North support the South?