Pagefile setting

Discussion in 'Windows Desktop Systems' started by eminem910, May 5, 2003.

  1. eminem910

    eminem910 Guest

    ok..i have 2 hardrives.. 120 gig and 45 gig. the 120 is divided into 2 partitions.. one for OS.and another for more storage.. so thats 3 partitions total... i let winxp system manage the paging file... for all 3 partitions(or drives i guess).. total combinded paging file size is 1725 megs.. anyone have any ideas what i should do?..isnt 1725 a little too much?.. which drives should i create paging files on.. and how big.. thanks a lot
     
  2. Perris Calderon

    Perris Calderon Moderator Staff Member Political User

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    first, you need to set to 0 at least one of the pfs on the partitioned drive.

    splitting pfs on the same drive is counter productive.

    you can split the pf accross two hardrives, but I don't see a good gain, though ms claims there might be, and you need to experiment to find out.

    so, the most pfs you should have with this settup is 2, and every system is differant, and for best performance, it's easil to have best performance with one pagefile....like I said, ms actually says you need to experiment to find out.

    in any event, the initial minimum should probably only add up to 1.5 your ram, but not less...unless of course you tell us you ahve more then two gigs of ram, and then your initial minimum should be 2 gigs, but you must leave expanson enabled for that figure to be valid
     
  3. NetRyder

    NetRyder Tech Junkie Folding Team

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    Where there is a pagefile, there is a dealer ;)
     
  4. j79zlr

    j79zlr Glaanies script monkey Political User

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    There can be some performance increase to having the PF on the seperate HDD since the OS can page to disk (second HDD)and write to disk (first HDD) at the same time. Performance gains are minimal though, but it is how I have mine set up. The only ramification of not leaving a PF on the system drive of at least the size of your RAM then XP cannot write a memory dump (though they are complete unnecessary and basically impossible to interpret).

    My rec would be to have it on the second HDD.
     
  5. eminem910

    eminem910 Guest

    alright.. so i'll set page files on my c: and my g:.. but what values do you suggest
    c: (partition on system drive)
    minimum allowed: ?
    maximum allowed: ?

    g: (slave disk, slightly slower)
    minimum allowed: ?
    maximum allowed: ?

    would like dealers advice for this one.. hehe
     
  6. Perris Calderon

    Perris Calderon Moderator Staff Member Political User

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    we need to see the amount of ram you have

    I've gone over yor post, and I can't find it

    also, dealer would rather 2z or netryder, or speedy b or j79, yoyo, etc... give you advice on this one...they are much better with partitions then I am.

    I will just tell you make sure the total of all pagefiles winds up to at least the 1.5, with expansion enabled, and take their advice from there

    thanx

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  7. 2z

    2z OSNN Gamer

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    if you intend to use system recovery memory dump > let windows manage it

    if not > set C:/ to no pagefile (that drives busy enough)

    for optimal performance > I recommend a small FAT32 primary partition of around a gig in size > purely for the pagefile
    (doesn't matter if this drive is a bit slower > as long as its fairly large)

    it all depends what kind of programs your going to use

    if your going to use any image editing programs or any memory intensive programs you will need to increase the minimum
    (I have my minimum set to 850 meg & max @ 950 > *always leave a bit of space on the partition*)

    if not you can let XP manage it for that drive

    Virtual memory is a poor substitute for RAM
    with the amount of RAM you have your more than likely to have some paging of the OS to disk > which makes the system slow & laggy

    RAM is very cheap at the moment > the more the better

    for me the optimal amount RAM is in my system is 768meg o RAM > the OS does not page its self to disk any more

    resulting in an overall net gain in performance

    :cool:
     
  8. eminem910

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    why does dealer say he doesnt know how much ram i have?.. its in my signature it says 384 megs of ddr ram anyways my current settings are
    for c: min: 576 max: 600
    g: min: 2 max: 384

    hmm.says my total paging file is 576 megs though
     
  9. Perris Calderon

    Perris Calderon Moderator Staff Member Political User

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    I broke my box, and I only get to skim posts while I'm on someone elses computer...

    sorry
     
  10. 2z

    2z OSNN Gamer

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    XP wont make a 2 meg pagefile

    :huh:
     
  11. eminem910

    eminem910 Guest

    lol. then why does it say "minimum: 2 megs".. so what do you guys suggest. i have 384 ddr ram.. need a paging file for the master drive.and the slave drive.. min and max values.for each
     
  12. 2z

    2z OSNN Gamer

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    its for system recovery 64k memory dump

    XP will only make when it needs to

    your pagefile size is initially restricted to the minimum value

    regardless of your upper limit XP will still grind to halt when it has to create more VM.

    The upper limit is to ensure that the space is kept available if the need arises for expansion.

    a good benchmark for minimum settings is the balloon tip
    Windows needs to create "VM" you cannot start anymore programs
    if you see this message increase your minimum

    :cool: