Optical Mice

Discussion in 'General Hardware' started by OTE, Nov 24, 2002.

  1. OTE

    OTE Guest

    Logitech MX-500

    or

    Microsoft Optical V3

    Which and why??
     
  2. Shamus MacNoob

    Shamus MacNoob Moderator Political User

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    Microsoft

    After years of computing and many different mice ...... I have landed on the microsoft optical and its just the best mouse in my opinion ......just like the way it feels.
     
  3. m3th0dm4n

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    Personally, I'm getting the Logitech MX-500. I've used a MS Intellimouse for too long and it glitches way too often to piss me off.

    Of course Im a gamer so its peeves me more :D
     
  4. NetRyder

    NetRyder Tech Junkie Folding Team

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    Go for the Logitech ...

    1) It looks wayyy better
    2) It has more buttons and features
     
  5. Taurus

    Taurus hardware monkey

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    they're both perfect perfomers. my advice would be go to a store with demo mice so you can see how each one feels. then base your choice on comfort.
     
  6. jumpy

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    The dodgy no-name $9US Optical mouse! It has served me well for over a year - and i'm hoping for a bit longer :p

    But if it has to be one of those - I'd have to agree with taurus, just go and have a look and feel for yourself in store.
     
  7. xsivforce

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    I use a Logitech and am happy with it. I haven't tried a MS one though.
     
  8. SPeedY_B

    SPeedY_B I may actually be insane.

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    Using a Microsoft optical mouse here.
    5 buttons, one scroll wheel... has served me well for quite some time now :)
     
  9. rettahc

    rettahc Guest

    I vote for my $20 inland 5 button scroll wheel been using it for well over a year and never had a single problem optical mouse.


    Oh wait thats not on the list......
     
  10. madmatt

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    How come the MX700 isn't a choice?
    Is my mouse not good enough to make this conversation?
     
  11. Sazar

    Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Staff Member Political User Folding Team

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    both are equally good... I am using a dual mouse setup right now... an older optical MS mouse and the logitech cordless mouse..

    the mx700 should be included... coz thats the best mouse out there right now... and one of the best looking too :)
     
  12. Taurus

    Taurus hardware monkey

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    no, it's probably too good... kinda expensive. }:>

    lol, me too! inland 3-button ps2 optical cost me $7... working absolutely perfectly for probably 2 years now.
     
  13. Zedric

    Zedric NTFS Guru Folding Team

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    I have the MX700 and it's soooo nice. Since the MX500 is basicly the same mouse but with a cord I voted for that one. Never liked MS optical mice, so plastic, so "cheap". Their new cordless seems nice though.
     
  14. OTE

    OTE Guest

    Sorry about the late reply, but last night the connection kept timing out. Anyway I think ill go for the MX500. Your right taurus the MX700 is too expensive and i havent heard much good of cordless mice for gamng. Thanks for the replys people :)
     
  15. DwarfData

    DwarfData Guest

    I have an MX700. It's a great mouse. Excellent smooth response. Great looking (for a mouse:D ) but.....

    If you want to use the mouse in games, beware, the drivers aren't upto all games. I mainly play Medal of Honour, but, even with the brand new V9.75 drivers, you can't use the extra buttons.
     
  16. Zedric

    Zedric NTFS Guru Folding Team

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    Aaaaand it's a TIE! 8 - 8

    DwarfData: There's a fix for that I believe.
     
  17. DwarfData

    DwarfData Guest

    Zedric,

    Any idea where this fix can be found. I've been hunting high and low, but not found anything.
     
  18. Zedric

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  19. DwarfData

    DwarfData Guest

    I've already downloaded this file, and despite what it says in the page you'd given, when you run the file it says it is only for Win95/98 and NT4.

    The way this file works has, I believe been addressed in the new drivers released 27th Nov. 02. The drivers monitor which application is launched, and if the file is added to the Registry, the EM_EXEC file will not translate any input from the mouse.

    The following is from an email I received from Logitech Support regarding this issue


    Logitech Mouse Gaming compatibility

    What is it?

    We have found that the Logitech assignments in MouseWare are not generally accepted in games. Therefor we no longer provide MouseWare functionality, (button assignments) when you are playing a game, (em_exec is disabled), then we fully re-enable it when you go back to non-gaming applications. This is done by detecting which components are used by the application. The main components we look for are Direct Input and OpenGL, which should cover about 80% of the games. Please note that only 5 buttons on the MX700 or MX500 can be used in games. Buttons 6, 7, and 8, can not be programmed.
    Look for added support on these buttons in MouseWare 9.80 (Due to the nature of software development a date is not available).

    We do have the flexibility to list other components in case some very popular games don't use these libraries.

    How do I support a new game?

    By adding a string value with the name of the games executable file name (exe file) in the registry:


    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Logitech\MouseWare\CurrentVersion\GamingCompatibility

    For example: NotePad=Notepad.exe

    You can try the example above using NotePad by adding this to the registry. Then either quit em_exec by going to the run line and enter (or you can just cut and paste the line below):

    "C:\Program Files\Logitech\MouseWare\System\EM_EXEC.EXE" /q

    or restart the system. Then go to the control panel and restart em_exec by double clicking the mouse icon, then run notepad and you will find the you just get the native buttons, all button assignments are now disabled in
    NotePad. Other apps will still receive button assignments.

    As new games are released, entries can be added if the game does not use one of the standard libraries or is not listed in the "GamingCompatibility" key. We hope in the future to either offer a .REG file you can download and double click on to update the list of game entries in the
    "GamingCompatibility" or a easy to use utility. MouseWare 9.80 will
    further improve this system and will add additional button support for the MX mice.

    So to recap, MouseWare will be disabled in a game if one of following things happen:

    1. The game uses one of the libraries listed below.
    2. There is an entry for that games exe file in the "GamingCompatibility" key in the registry.

    How do I turn this scheme off?

    If you are using the button assignments and did not want em_exec to be disabled while playing the game, you could do this by adding the following entry in the registry:


    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Logitech\MouseWare\CurrentVersion\Technical
    UseLGGameScheme="Off"

    You will need to quit em_exec or restart the system as described above for this to take effect.

    Games currently detected:

    Games using the following libraries:

    glu32.dll
    GLlib.dll
    glaux.dll
    dinput8.dll

    The following specific games:

    quake3.exe
    UnrealTournament.exe
    UNREALTOURNAMENT.ICD
    TacticalOps.exe
    COMBATFS.EXE
    descent3.exe
    SoF2.exe
    hl.exe
    bshift.exe
    hitman.exe
    game.exe
    wolfsp.exe
    wolfmp.exe


    So, it looks like we'll have to wait until V9.80 drivers for full support of the extra buttons. :mad:
     
  20. BonyTony

    BonyTony Moderator

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    My mouse here Mouse hope it never breaks as i love it to bits...but i dont use logitech drivers with it......i use Trust drivers as they work better in mapping keys for games.