I appreciate the need for a clean out was needed... the old forum was surely bulked out big time. But now I cant find out any information which I know was on the old forum Is this backed up on another url? or is it gone for good? nps, saw this - "Yesterday, due to a series of problems we lost the a portion of the NTFS database so you will be required to reregister to login into the NTFS forums. It is a huge loss and we are working to recover what we can from the portion of the database that remains. We are well on the way to recovery and I am sure we will be back up and running as we were in no time at all. Also, as we had to start from scratch I decided that we should install vBulletin3 as it is now close to a final release. There are still areas that we haven't learnt to manipulate yet and as this is pre-final there are still bugs but they will be rectified as soon as possible."