Makeing m3p's Smaller

Discussion in 'Windows Desktop Systems' started by paul2-0-0-2, May 9, 2004.

  1. paul2-0-0-2

    paul2-0-0-2 Moderator

    Messages:
    979
    Got a Album and need to make it about 60 Mb to Fit on my Mp3 Player

    Now the 11 songs are Variable Bit Rate 300 to 600 and its 66.4mb

    Anyway to make the Album to 60mb??

    I though converting them to 192 would do it but it made the mp3s Bigger :confused:

    But still want it good quality 128kbs Sounds Crap and to Quiet

    Thx in Advance
     
  2. Petros

    Petros Thief IV

    Messages:
    3,038
    Location:
    Pacific Northwest
    Hmm...resampling them at 192 or 128 both will make them sound like crap. Try it with a song and you'll hear what I mean.

    Everytime you resample a sound, it becomes is less accurate than the one before it.
     
  3. paul2-0-0-2

    paul2-0-0-2 Moderator

    Messages:
    979
  4. paul2-0-0-2

    paul2-0-0-2 Moderator

    Messages:
    979
    yes i know what you mean :) but 192 is Fine on the mp3 Player but anything below is Crap but cant seem to Convert it to Fit

    But might aswel ask in case theres a way :)
     
  5. Petros

    Petros Thief IV

    Messages:
    3,038
    Location:
    Pacific Northwest
    Would 160 be ok then>?
     
  6. paul2-0-0-2

    paul2-0-0-2 Moderator

    Messages:
    979
    yes thats what i think i might at to go with but hopeing theres a way to make them 192 lol :p
     
  7. mooo

    mooo thecyberninja

    Messages:
    886
    Location:
    earth
    don't add your 2 worst songs :)
     
  8. Petros

    Petros Thief IV

    Messages:
    3,038
    Location:
    Pacific Northwest
    I see. Sadly, though, it all comes down to math.

    Let's say you have an hour of music. At 192 kilobytes per second (Kbps), this hour of music will take up 86.4 megabytes. At 128 kbps, it will only take up 57.6 MB. That rate can't be changed in a "constant bitrate" MP3.
     
    paul2-0-0-2 likes this.
  9. paul2-0-0-2

    paul2-0-0-2 Moderator

    Messages:
    979

    lol wana add it to mp3 player so i can lhear it propley :p

    Thx guess it will at to be 128 lol :eek:

    EDIT: You know a good Free program to convert them??
     
  10. dreamliner77

    dreamliner77 The Analog Kid

    Messages:
    4,702
    Location:
    Red Sox Nation
    If they are VBR 300-600 kbps mp3, they are just barely even mp3. They are free-format mp3's. There are only a few codecs that can encode/decode free-formant correctly. (How exactly are you getting you're bit rate info, what you've stated doesn't quite sound right?)

    Unwonted is correct in what he was saying about it being a time issue.

    You're best option would be to use LAME and and use the command line --abr 150 or something. That way the bitrate will AVERAGE around 150kbps.

    As far as converting, you have a few options
    1) decode to wave, re-encode
    2) Foobar2000
    3)dBpoweramp.
     
  11. Tuffgong4

    Tuffgong4 The Donger Need Food!!!! Political User

    Messages:
    2,465
    Location:
    Chicago
    dBpoweramp...very good way to go
     
  12. a1ehouse

    a1ehouse Chamone M*tha Fu*ka

    Messages:
    288
    Does your player support wma files? wma are smaller than mp3 and better quality at lower bit rates.
     
  13. Xie

    Xie - geek - Subscribed User Folding Team

    Messages:
    5,275
    Location:
    NY, USA
    Re-rip your cd @ bitrate needed ... don't downsample your mp3s.
     
  14. dreamliner77

    dreamliner77 The Analog Kid

    Messages:
    4,702
    Location:
    Red Sox Nation
    Just to nitpick...

    It is not resampling or downsampling.

    Resampling would be changing the sample rate. For cd's (mp3 etc) it's 44.1 kHz. For DVD, DAT etc, it's 48 kHz.

    The process there is called transcoding.
     
  15. paul2-0-0-2

    paul2-0-0-2 Moderator

    Messages:
    979
    Done it at the end made them 164kbs sounds ok but not that good :| used Music Match tried DBpoweramp but something went wrong forgot what now lol

    Thx for the Tips :)