I'm back, check out my post here to catch up... (http://www.xp-erience.org/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21833) After all of that in the post, I went and removed SP1 (the format way). I reinstalled GTA 3, updated it with the "yellow-text-box-menu thingy" patch (which was needed and worked) and I still get a problem about 8 seconds into the game. Before, it froze up or went to a black screen, now it goes to a blue screen with a bunch of crap about how the system encountered an error with the program and needs to be rebooted. It also gives me this message at the bottom: "STOP: 0x0000008e (0xc0000005, 0xbfa4a353, 0xba60bb88, 0x00000000) NV4_DISP.dll address bfa4a353 base at bf998000, date stamp 3d3478e4" Oh, after doing the reformat, and before installing GTA 3, I downloaded the Det Drivers (30.82). I chose those over the 40.'s because they are WHQL (sp?) certified or whatever, thinking it might help. It didn't. Any of you super-smart people have any idea what that message above refers to and if it can easily be fixed?