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video card question



I own a AG315-64 Video Magic 64mb sdram video card, my scores on 3dmark are always below 2000. If I upgrade my video card, even back to a 32mb, will my scores be better or/and would it just be better to get a another one period. I don't want to spend more than $70 on one.

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So why are you the only one that says these's no go card for $70. In all the other forums I asked this question in they gave me plenty of suggestions and they said a $70 card could be better.


The Analog Kid
Catch, that is only your opinion. Damn, I have a TNT2 and I think it does ok. You just believe the hype. You don't have to spend $200-400 to have a decent card that will only serve to boost benchmarks. Go by what you see and what you really need it for.


Maybe because I'm the only one who knows what he's talking about...?


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my scores on 3dmark are always below 2000
I hate to agree with "Catch" on this (Because he IS a little cocky!) However this person specifically mentioned his 3D Mark scores. AND as that is tied squarely to the responsiveness of his video card I would say $70.00 isn't enough either. If he wants to compete with the big boys one of the newer faster Nvidia Cards or one of the ATI Radeon cards would help him there more than a 2 year old TNT2 card would. For all intents and purposes a $70 cars would do most every thing he would want. However, if he wants to move into the upper eschelons of the 3D mark crowd unless somebody coughs him up a Radeon 9000 or 9700 as a $70 charity case he needs to invest more than $70.....Oh and by the way...Pricewatch is a good guide, but if you want realistic prices you usually need to go to about pg. 5 of what you are looking at and judge the prices from there. I have known a number of people who have not gotten what they thought they were going to get either "Pricewise" or "Merchandisewise" remember to add shipping & see if you must "Mention Pricewatch" etc. "Let the buyer beware" as with most things in life you get what you pay for. There are however bargains to be had, no denying that.

Best of luck to you!

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The Analog Kid
I totally understand, but I guess I should reiterate that it's what you see (or don't see) and not what some benchmark tells you. I'm also tired and cranky this morning, as if you coulnd't already tell that.
It really depends on what you want to play. If you want to play GTA3, UT2003, Doom III and similar newer, "heavy" games, get a GF4Ti or a GF3Ti (cheaper but slower). If you only play a bit older games or mostly not at all, get a GF2 or GF2MX.


u right there catch23

Ya, TNT2 / TNT2 Ultra don't cut it any more,

Ya, it works great with older games, and even gta3 with lots of tweakage and a fast CPU, but the next generation games need at least a Geforce 3 TI,

If you looking for a new card, go with GeForce 4 Ti 4600 once 9700 comes out. I if you have the moeny get the 9700 itself.


F@H - Is it in you?
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cheapest next gen card to buy right now is going to be the radeon 9000 or 9000pro at around 90 dollars incl. shipping

I just bought a radeon 8500 retail (clock is 275 or higher v/s 250 for the LE version) and I paid 130 dollars for it...

my 3d scores on sysmark are well over 9000/shade under 10000...

I agree with catch that you are NOT going to get a decent card for under 70 bucks compared to what you have... look for something better... the 8500 is a good buy right now coz its faster than the 9000.. BUT the ti4200 is also dropping in price and is a very good card performance wise...


choose wisely mate.. but don't buy a 70 buck card... thats just throwing your money away... save a little more... eat less taco bell/mc' d's and you will have the money in no time at all...



F@H - Is it in you?
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9700 expected in late september/early october far as I know... 15th october thrown around by a few people...


I have a TNT2 and can play Army Ops and UT fine. When I can no longer play, I will buy a new one. But it is far from worthless yet.


hardware monkey

Geforce2 Ti 64mb = $60 = ~5000 3dmarks
Geforce3 Ti200 64mb = $100 = 8000+
Geforce4 Ti 4200 64mb = $150 = 10,000+

these are from pricewatch and are good name-brand cards from vendors i've ordered from before. the 3dmark scores are estimated based on your system. you decide how much you wanna spend. the geforce 3 and 4 have pixel and vertex shaders which the newest games take advantage of to give some cool effects. as far as ati cards go, i'll let someone else give you their opinion on those. for me: nvidia all the way. i love my gf2.

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