ok heres the problem... when i install SP2, i can no longer get any DNS to work, even by pinging, i found that Norton Internet Security 2004 was the problem, it works when its disabled... I had windows firewall disabled the whole time, I tried deleting all the rules on NIS 2004, nothing i did seemed to help.... so i removed sp2 and went back to sp1... and works fine... i'm running an athalon 64 3200, 2x512 pc3200 crucal ram, 200gig maxtor serial ata hd, 256 meg Nvidia geforcefx 5700, asus MB with Nforce 3 chipset, 8x light-on dvd burner, using a linksys router.... any help would be apreciated... i'm stumped...