In my OPINION AMD processors are the best current value out there (They certainly do more work per clock cycle than Intel chips). Even with a budget cooler they are rock solid (provided you aren't trying to overclock.
Ever see the difference in bootup time between an athlon XP 1600 and a pentium 3 2.0 on roughly equivalent machines???
AMD wins every time.
why does everyone insist AMD's are like 5 bajillion degrees hot? my AMD is overclocked from a 1800 to a little under a 2k...and it is still using stock cooling that came with it, and the hottest it has ever gotten is 52 and thats after 24hrs of burn in tests
Well all that's changed since I finally wised up and got me an AMD 1.4 gig.
I just ordered the XP 2000+ and should be getting it tomorrow. AMD kicks some serious butt and that's a fact.
AMD's got some great future plans and will stay competitive with the Giant Intel for a long time to come. This is like David an Goliath. David right now is packing a pretty mean sling!
I had a friend building a new computer. I asked what CPU he would be using. He said, "of course Intel, everyone knows Intel is faster than AMD".
I could only shake my head at his faulty info and inform him how wrong he was. Problem is many people still think that way. When was the last time you saw an AMD commercial on TV? Intel dominates the airwaves and a lot of people believe them.
One good thing about Intel. Since AMD has stepped up to the plate, Intel has been forced to drop their prices on their CPUs even though they are still considerably higher than AMD. Anyone remember that when Intel used to release a CPU, it was around $900? They had no problem sticking it to you.
If it wasn't for AMD, Intel CPU's would still cost a gazillion bucks like they used to.
I also take some issue with the VIA comment. VIA is on the cutting edge right now. Someone has to be. Being cutting edge also brings along with it some problems that need to be worked out along the way. VIA has had it's share but also has resolved them as they come.
i have to say i have had problems with via chipsets in the past, but now i think they are gettting good at putting out the drivers fairly quickly... as far as AMD - I'll never go pentium again.. I love my 1800+ - its fast, and relaible (rock solid) and its running very cool... oh, and did i mention I am running with a Geforce2 Ultra 64 - ruh roh - i broke all the rules... now what? this system has been up and running now for about 2 months, with hardly any glitches and all those were from me poking around in the services, registry and logon screen... nothing to do with the hardware....
My last computer had an AMD-k6 333 I had heard good things about AMD and thought what the heck-well it was the biggest piece of crap. Oh it still runs, but constanly overheats, shuts down and reboots. I have tried numerous extra fans, heat sinks to no avail. Granted this was not the top of the line machine, more middle of the road with intergrated video and sound (hey it was cheap-$300 66% off, clearence at the wifes work) but something should have worked. And to hear that the same problem still occurs and with my experience, it'll take alot of convincing for me to try AMD again.
Granted for the money, AMD may be a better value, and for serious gamers the differences might make a difference, but you have to prove to me that the AMD is that much better and faster than Intel before I'll switch.
I have a Dell 4100 w/1 gig P3, TNT M64 (gotta upgrade!)and SB Live and have been very happy with it. Never a lick of trouble.
You know the old saying: Once bitten, twice shy.
Just the way I am, and just my opinion.
I guess we can agree to disagree.
i had a intel for about 4 days i got it in my PC i just got ran like crap always ran hot and shut down i took out the MOBO and replaced the Cpu from intel to AMD AND to my suprize all the problems went away my pc run cool never gets hot runs like a dream i say intel can take there
OVER PRICED CRAPPY CPUS and stick them up there A**
ill from here on out be a amd MAN !!!!
Avoid using VIA chipset mobo together with NVIDIA video card.
NOT ONLY did you PAY substantially more for your (intel) processer but you probably had to "promise your first male child" so you could PAY THROUGH THE NOSE for that ridiculous RD-RAM (can you say...BEND OVER ?????)
I guess I can understand why you are so touchy about People raggin about Intel. Hell, If I had wasted that much money I would feel like I had to defend myself too.
Oh well, Live and Learn-- If you start savin now you will have enough for that AWSOME Athlon XP 2000 in no time !!!
1)ac6210CR is trying to get the biggest post on the board award, for he knows everyone running an AMD (AMD users seem to be Fundamentally Radical to the company) processor will read and post to the thread.
2)ac6210CR has money to burn. Prolly has NIKE Air Jordan shoes, prolly a whole closet full, because they are more expensive than other shoes so they MUST be better.
3)ac6210 has no practical experience with the AMD CPU. But really who cares? Everyone has theyre opinion. My partner at work used to make fun of me for my AMD, and now mr PeeFor Ardeeram himself is considering buying an Athlon XP.
4)Anyone STILL having trouble with VIA chipsets, either a: has an OLD VIA chipset and b: doesnt know how to properly setup and configure a PC
5)People dont know that this is the Windows XP forum and not the Athlon XP forum, since this dont have ANYTHING to do with Windows XP
I would jump at the chance to own a P4 2.2, after I seen how they can be clocked to 3GHZ @ tomshardware.com. BUT it needed one of those fancy water cooling kits. SO heat is heat, every processor makes it, and when Intel CPUs get a littel hot they UNDERTHROTTLE themselves automatically. So hotter = slower, and Ive watched the clock speed drop on above mentioned friends system when he was benchmarking and torture testing. Admittedly maybe he screwed the pooch putting on HIS HSF but who knows.
My Athlon XP system has beenrunning SETI for 510 hours and ive never seen a temp over 42 degrees with an Antec Jet Cool HSF
and a cheap case with no ventilation AND a Geforce 2 Ti. Hmmm