it's brand new system , less than 3 months old, hand built. I am not the brightest tool in the shed i do however pay attention to detail. my prior processor to this was a p4 1.7ghz that didn't run close to this hot, at full load that thing hit maybe 53c and hovered aroungd 45c at adle my case temp was around 28c.... and that was a dell case with only 2 fans. this thing has got 5. i have moved fans around, changed flow direction, removed fan grills, replaced thermal paste 4 times. I was thinking abour replacing the PSU but if i am left with the same problem, i just wasted that money. so i figure a water cooling system will get me the temps i want and keep the load on my psu down. I am looking at the Cooler Master Aquagate ALC-U01 and the Aquarius III external liquid cooling from thermaltake. I'm not looking to overclock my processor to 10ghz or anything like that, just want an efficient system.