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ATI9800pro

Sazar

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#4
Originally posted by canadian_divx
is the 9800 pro out for sale yet or is it still being produced??? and if it is out for sale does anyone know any canadian sites that sell it?
its on sale...

both the regular 9800pro 128mb and the 9800pro 256mb DDR II boards are retailing...

currently the fastest dx9 video cards on the market..
 
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Flatbeat_Eddy

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#7
yeah but the 9800 por 256mb Has the same performance as the 128mb version, It rarely beats it.

No point in going for the More expensive 256mb version when the 128mb performs the same now is it.
 

Sazar

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#8
Originally posted by Flatbeat_Eddy
yeah but the 9800 por 256mb Has the same performance as the 128mb version, It rarely beats it.

No point in going for the More expensive 256mb version when the 128mb performs the same now is it.
:)

same reason as one buys a 128mb card above a 64 mb card..

more memory == more textures can be loaded == higher resolutions with higher LOD's and better IQ through AA and AF filtering methods == better game play with higher minimum framerates...

:)

fps don't always tell the story... :)

further... the 256mb board has 256mb of ddr II... not ddr I as in the case of the 128mb version therefore it can certainly be overclocked... theoretically... a lot better :)
 
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Flatbeat_Eddy

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#9
Yeah, but the benchmakrs say the 256mb versio n RARELY out performs the 128mb version.

Mayeb when game come out that use the full 256mb of Vram it will come in handy otherwise its complete waste of £'s (or $'s :))
 

Sazar

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#10
Originally posted by Flatbeat_Eddy
Yeah, but the benchmakrs say the 256mb versio n RARELY out performs the 128mb version.

Mayeb when game come out that use the full 256mb of Vram it will come in handy otherwise its complete waste of £'s (or $'s :))
there is pretty much nothing on the market that really has the ability to show off the added power of the extra memory... though you will see the fps being better on 1600x1200 resolutions with AA and AF turned on high...

this product is a true high end card... ergo it commands a premium...

its a ludicrous price but I already know many people who have ordered and installed this card and are loving it... (many == more than 2 :) )
 

Kevin Ar18

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#12
Originally posted by Sazar
and better IQ through AA and AF filtering methods
When you say IQ, you are referring to the ability to turn on AA and AF correct?
The 128 and 256 MB version peform almost exactly the same with AA and AF turned up (maybe 1 frame difference).
 

Kush

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#13
Sazar is there any company that made the ati 9800pro like with extra features, such as a better cooling fan, other things like the 9700pro
 

Sazar

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#14
Originally posted by Kevin Ar18
When you say IQ, you are referring to the ability to turn on AA and AF correct?
The 128 and 256 MB version peform almost exactly the same with AA and AF turned up (maybe 1 frame difference).
it depends which benchmarks you look@...

from they way one sees gpu's operating and the workload in rendering scenes it is only to be expected that more memory == better performance..

you may not necessarily get HIGHER framerates all teh time but smoother frame rates... ie... high min fps...

turning on AA and AF does also increase the memory usage... and again it is more efficient to have more memory and work be done by the gpu in larger chunks than it being continually worked on and swapped out...
 

Sazar

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#15
Originally posted by themafia_69
Sazar is there any company that made the ati 9800pro like with extra features, such as a better cooling fan, other things like the 9700pro
the 9800pro's have been on the market around 2months...

@ the mo only other thing I have heard different from the stock version from ati is the sapphire fanless (ie the massive zalman style) heatsink.. :)

the quiet card like on the 9700pro... except its about and inch or so longer (has extra capacitors @ the end to regulate voltage et al )
 

Taurus

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#17
Originally posted by Flatbeat_Eddy
No point in going for the More expensive 256mb version when the 128mb performs the same now is it.
key word is "now". the 256mb card isn't for people who always have to have the latest and greatest and will end up buying a new card in 3 months. it's for people that want the fastest out right now and want to go as long as possible without having to worry about upgrading. much like my mentality when i bought my GeForce2 GTS 64MB almost 3 years ago and gave up $320 for it. :)
 
#18
only 7% tax u are lucky i got 15% but i am going to order it at cost for me LOL. but anouther thing, the stock heatsinks with the 9800pro, are they good or should i replace it with a better one?
 

Kevin Ar18

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#19
Originally posted by Sazar
it depends which benchmarks you look@...
A little investigation and... it seems the only benchmark it is currently having an effect on is Unreal Tournament 2003. It becomes most noticeable at 1600x1200 w/ 4xAA, 8xAF
http://firingsquad.gamers.com/hardware/ati_radeon_9800_pro_review/page14.asp

Anyways, what I wanted to make sure by your statement about Image quality was that you were talking about getting more FPS with Anti-aliasing and Anisotropic on and not about getting a better quality image just because of more RAM. Is this correct?
 

Kevin Ar18

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#20
Originally posted by Sazar
it depends which benchmarks you look@...

from they way one sees gpu's operating and the workload in rendering scenes it is only to be expected that more memory == better performance..

you may not necessarily get HIGHER framerates all teh time but smoother frame rates... ie... high min fps...

turning on AA and AF does also increase the memory usage... and again it is more efficient to have more memory and work be done by the gpu in larger chunks than it being continually worked on and swapped out...
Sorry for arguing with ya there. I've heard and read about how the extra RAM helps (like in older Geforce cards). Even the benchmark sites said that about past Geforce cards, however I've just never ran across a bunch of different benchmarks that really showed it. I guess I would just like more info on it; it is interesting to consider (especially so I can choose the right card for myself as well).
 

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