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there have been around 1000 opterons working in various machines in various companies for a little while now and there have been nothing but rave reviews about these processors..
going by that... it is highly unlikely that intel will keep its edge by just ramping up the clock and knocking up the bus speed... their architectural changes upcoming will keep things very fresh and interesting... which is what I wanted in the first place...
but still the hammer buzz is not based on paper specs... it has been demonstrated to work in real world apps very well... plus intels desktop 64 bit solution will not be out for a while... giving amd a nice head start there... and seeing as so many people are pledging support and apps for it... it can only mean increasing their almost 20% market share for desktop cpu's...
going by that... it is highly unlikely that intel will keep its edge by just ramping up the clock and knocking up the bus speed... their architectural changes upcoming will keep things very fresh and interesting... which is what I wanted in the first place...
but still the hammer buzz is not based on paper specs... it has been demonstrated to work in real world apps very well... plus intels desktop 64 bit solution will not be out for a while... giving amd a nice head start there... and seeing as so many people are pledging support and apps for it... it can only mean increasing their almost 20% market share for desktop cpu's...
sazar, I can't argue with your points
it just seems to me intel will not lie down...I can't believe they will let amd trump them on this.
this is why I think they will have something ready to compete with the hammer.
if not, intel will become the second runner, and amd the first.
do you think intel doesn't know this?
they do, and they will struggle to prevent it
that's all I'm saying.
I agree with your post
it just seems to me intel will not lie down...I can't believe they will let amd trump them on this.
this is why I think they will have something ready to compete with the hammer.
if not, intel will become the second runner, and amd the first.
do you think intel doesn't know this?
they do, and they will struggle to prevent it
that's all I'm saying.
I agree with your post
intel has gone on record to say they don't see a market for 64bit cpu's currently and therefore will debut their part around 2005... hence if the hammers debut this year commercially... BLAM you have a theoretical lead of 2 years unless intel ramps up its production...
thats why I said amd will have a lead... also amd seems to have the upper hand per the buzz with the efficiency of their processors when running 64bit apps...
m$ and epic (to name 2) have said they will release 64bit software when the hammers drop... hence there will be a market expected else this would not have been said...
thats why I said amd will have a lead... also amd seems to have the upper hand per the buzz with the efficiency of their processors when running 64bit apps...
m$ and epic (to name 2) have said they will release 64bit software when the hammers drop... hence there will be a market expected else this would not have been said...
Originally posted by gonaads
Also it has been said that the Intel version would not be backwards compatable. I also recall that the AMD 64bit CPU was being toted by MicroSquish for their 64bit version of Windoz.
Or something to that effect. I know ya'll will correct me if I is wrong, now won't cha.
Also it has been said that the Intel version would not be backwards compatable. I also recall that the AMD 64bit CPU was being toted by MicroSquish for their 64bit version of Windoz.
Or something to that effect. I know ya'll will correct me if I is wrong, now won't cha.
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Windows 64 is going to be what its called, Whether or not it will keep this name is beyond me for a launch. Which is already developed and ready to launch back when the hammer was SUPPOSE to be released. With a company with is hands in everything backing this launch it would take a grade A flop of a processor launch to screw this up. Baisically microsoft is handing Amd this succsessful launch. Should be interesting to see what AMD does with it. The most promising thing about any peice of hardware is its ability to work with what you already have. With this tool AMD can do no wrong.
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Its also interesting to note this lil bit I found in a digi-life column
Over 400 Athlon 64 based systems are now in different companies. Over 130 2- and 4-processor systems on the Opteron are currently tested by over 120 companies. Well, at least it shows that this architecture is interesting and that AMD doesn't need to supply samples of the new processor.
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Over 400 Athlon 64 based systems are now in different companies. Over 130 2- and 4-processor systems on the Opteron are currently tested by over 120 companies. Well, at least it shows that this architecture is interesting and that AMD doesn't need to supply samples of the new processor.
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Well the thing is theres alot of hype about this simple fact this processor being a 64 bit chip. I hate to say it but for home use this virtually means nothing unless your running a 64 bit application because the processor does 5 opperations per clock cycle in 64 bit mode. Being that it does one opperation LESS per clock cyle in 32bit mode than the original athlon did. The real list of people who will gain anything from 64bit support is database users, people who run large scientific calculations and autocad users. The real gain this processor has is its backwards compatible with every OS Amd dared to try (55) and its supperior design. Amd currently has a version clocked at 2.4ghz. Im sure they have one hidden away dare not spoke of with even higherclocks. Its plausible this processor will be released with a clock of 1.8 ghz at launch. Could this be the end of the false numbers for amd? Ground plans layed out this processor will soon be paired with ddr2 technology the setup delivers unprecidented bandwidth. We'll see :0)
nice post
and of course, since ther won't be an intel to compare the chip to, they will probably revert to true clock speed, however, they might have to compare the chip to the prevailing chip that intel has to offer, as the intel will definately clock higher.
as you point out, comsumers will not notice a differance for a while, until technology catches up to the chip
and of course, since ther won't be an intel to compare the chip to, they will probably revert to true clock speed, however, they might have to compare the chip to the prevailing chip that intel has to offer, as the intel will definately clock higher.
as you point out, comsumers will not notice a differance for a while, until technology catches up to the chip
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