Convince me on buying Vista

jimi_81 · October 5th, 2006

Guys...

I need convincing. As a regular XP user, can someone perhaps lay out the sales pitch groundwork to convince me to buy Windows Vista.

Amazon.ca has all of the versions priced. I see Home Premium for 299.99. I suppose that is reasonable.

My system is a couple years old: 3.2 ghz P4, 1 gb ram, ati 1600Pro 512 mb AGP.

I havent loaded any betas.. perhaps I should start with the public issue. But in terms of shelling out the 3 and a half bills, where does Vista go where XP does not? Interface improvements I can already see, but functionality wise?

Also, what version is best for a more than average home user. I am guessing Premium.

**kcnychief** · October 5th, 2006

Something worth honorable mention which should definitely be discussed, Paul T has a great article describing how you can achieve a lot of Vista benefits with XP and now

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...ta_xp_apps.asp

**Beginning** · October 5th, 2006

^ Excellent read..

Thanks!

jimi_81 · October 5th, 2006

Posted October 3rd.
talk about timing
thanks for the link!

**LordOfLA** · October 5th, 2006

If you can afford to upgrade and your hardware is capable, I see no reason to stay with XP. There's no reason to fall over yourself to upgrade, but sticking to XP is not recommended for the long term.

I'd say that waiting a few months while the early adopters work through all the driver and software issues, etc is a prudent plan for most people.

**mlakrid** · October 5th, 2006

Originally Posted by LordOfLA

If you can afford to upgrade and your hardware is capable, I see no reason to stay with XP. There's no reason to fall over yourself to upgrade, but sticking to XP is not recommended for the long term.

I'd say that waiting a few months while the early adopters work through all the driver and software issues, etc is a prudent plan for most people.

If you dont already have a dual-core or quad-core processor, or you wont be using your OS to do VERY CPU intensive applications there is little to NO reason to upgrade right away...

Especially if you follow the Microsoft mantra that they will extend the support for XP much the same as they did for windows 3.1, 98, 98 SE, NT, 2000 and I fell like they will do so yet again for XP...

**falconguard** · October 5th, 2006

*twists jimi's arm behind his back*

Buy it! Because it is good for you, it is new, and you know you like new.

*twists arm harder*

Gimme me the money, I'll buy it for ya.

Need more convincing?

**American Zombie** · October 5th, 2006

I have tried every version of Vista and am not that impressed with any of them so don't ask me to convince ya.

**Grandmaster** · October 5th, 2006

You don't *need* Vista.

**Lee** · October 5th, 2006

If you want to make a donation for yet more rubbish then give it to me.

I will trade you for your cash money windows 95.

**Beginning** · October 5th, 2006

^Ouch....... That will hurt!!

**Admiral Michael** · October 5th, 2006

I'm going to hold on to XP as long as possible.

vivid_vibe · October 6th, 2006

Originally Posted by Admiral Michael

I'm going to hold on to XP as long as possible.

Same here. It has done just fine these past 4+ years.

**LordOfLA** · October 6th, 2006

silly anti-progress people

Do what you will, but I guess your next upgrades will be from pentium 4's and athlon 64's to pentium 75s and DOS 6.....

Otherwise the lot of you are hypocrits.

**kcnychief** · October 6th, 2006

I was thinking of ugprading to a Commadore 64 next actually.....

**mlakrid** · October 6th, 2006

Originally Posted by kcnychief

I was thinking of ugprading to a Commadore 64 next actually.....

YUCK...

I will take my Atari 800XL any day over that over-rated POS!

**Grandmaster** · October 6th, 2006

Right now for me there aren't any absolute must have features in Vista. No need to upgrade just for the sake of upgrading. I'm past that phase.

IE7 is going to be available for XP.

I don't use WMP.

I don't need the security blanket as I'm a "fairly advanced" user that can tell if opening a link is going to mess up my system, or if a file is going to be a virus.

Most "beginner" people will probably need Vista though, just for security reasons.

**j79zlr** · October 6th, 2006

Originally Posted by Grandmaster

Right now for me there aren't any absolute must have features in Vista.

And there are not going to be.

Most "beginner" people will probably need Vista though, just for security reasons.

The UAC is NOT going to solve anything, it is SO annoying and pops up for everything, it will be either disabled or completely ignored.

The only true innovation will be if they can get IE to run in protected mode effectively. Time will tell, but concerning MSFT's history, I will venture to guess it wont really work correctly and/or will be compromised via virus/malware within days of Vistas release.

If you've actually used Vista, you'll see little to no reason to upgrade. A little bit shinier, but still the same system. Configuration is a pain in the ass, everything is moved, hell I can't even set a static IP in my LAN on Vista. UAC is about the worst thing in the world.

If you feel like paying $200-$400 for updated solitaire graphics, then Vista is worth the upgrade.

**X-Istence** · October 6th, 2006

There is a complete rewrite of minesweeper, solitaire and freecell included. That should say something.

**lancer** · October 6th, 2006

Jimi don't do it you fool, run run.....

but seriously as X says they have some new games, i think the one where you make cakes will be the iceing on the cake for most

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jimi_81 OSNN Senior Addict Joined: May 2002 Location: Stoney Creek, ON, Canada Posts: 828 Reputation: 500 Power: 109	Convince me on buying Vista Guys... I need convincing. As a regular XP user, can someone perhaps lay out the sales pitch groundwork to convince me to buy Windows Vista. Amazon.ca has all of the versions priced. I see Home Premium for 299.99. I suppose that is reasonable. My system is a couple years old: 3.2 ghz P4, 1 gb ram, ati 1600Pro 512 mb AGP. I havent loaded any betas.. perhaps I should start with the public issue. But in terms of shelling out the 3 and a half bills, where does Vista go where XP does not? Interface improvements I can already see, but functionality wise? Also, what version is best for a more than average home user. I am guessing Premium.

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kcnychief █▄█ ▀█▄ █ Joined: April 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,974 Reputation: 4941 Power: 279	Re: Convince me on buying Vista Something worth honorable mention which should definitely be discussed, Paul T has a great article describing how you can achieve a lot of Vista benefits with XP and now http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase...ta_xp_apps.asp
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Beginning I'm Beginning Somehow... Joined: June 2002 Location: XP-erience, NTFS, OSNN, here..... Posts: 1,261 Reputation: 360 Power: 110	Re: Convince me on buying Vista ^ Excellent read.. Thanks!
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jimi_81 OSNN Senior Addict Joined: May 2002 Location: Stoney Creek, ON, Canada Posts: 828 Reputation: 500 Power: 109	Re: Convince me on buying Vista Posted October 3rd. talk about timing thanks for the link!

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LordOfLA Godlike! Joined: February 2004 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 6,818 Blog Entries: 5 Reputation: 3651 Power: 179	Re: Convince me on buying Vista If you can afford to upgrade and your hardware is capable, I see no reason to stay with XP. There's no reason to fall over yourself to upgrade, but sticking to XP is not recommended for the long term. I'd say that waiting a few months while the early adopters work through all the driver and software issues, etc is a prudent plan for most people.
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mlakrid OSNN BASSMASTER Joined: February 2005 Location: Land O Lakes, FL Posts: more than you know! Posts: 2,277 Reputation: 1410 Power: 98	Re: Convince me on buying Vista Originally Posted by LordOfLA If you can afford to upgrade and your hardware is capable, I see no reason to stay with XP. There's no reason to fall over yourself to upgrade, but sticking to XP is not recommended for the long term. I'd say that waiting a few months while the early adopters work through all the driver and software issues, etc is a prudent plan for most people. If you dont already have a dual-core or quad-core processor, or you wont be using your OS to do VERY CPU intensive applications there is little to NO reason to upgrade right away... Especially if you follow the Microsoft mantra that they will extend the support for XP much the same as they did for windows 3.1, 98, 98 SE, NT, 2000 and I fell like they will do so yet again for XP...
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falconguard Carbon based lifeform Joined: February 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,466 Reputation: 2138 Power: 130	Re: Convince me on buying Vista twists jimi's arm behind his back Buy it! Because it is good for you, it is new, and you know you like new. twists arm harder Gimme me the money, I'll buy it for ya. Need more convincing?

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American Zombie OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: June 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 2,797 Reputation: 2421 Power: 121	Re: Convince me on buying Vista I have tried every version of Vista and am not that impressed with any of them so don't ask me to convince ya.

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Grandmaster Electronica Addict Joined: February 2002 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 10,692 Reputation: 2960 Power: 234	Re: Convince me on buying Vista You don't need Vista.

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Lee OSNN Proxy Joined: January 2004 Location: Kings Hill, West Malling, Kent, England. Posts: 3,479 Reputation: 1020 Power: 119	Re: Convince me on buying Vista If you want to make a donation for yet more rubbish then give it to me. I will trade you for your cash money windows 95.

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vivid_vibe OSNN Senior Addict Joined: December 2002 Posts: 410 Reputation: 250 Power: 95	Re: Convince me on buying Vista Originally Posted by Admiral Michael I'm going to hold on to XP as long as possible. Same here. It has done just fine these past 4+ years.

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LordOfLA Godlike! Joined: February 2004 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 6,818 Blog Entries: 5 Reputation: 3651 Power: 179	Re: Convince me on buying Vista silly anti-progress people Do what you will, but I guess your next upgrades will be from pentium 4's and athlon 64's to pentium 75s and DOS 6..... Otherwise the lot of you are hypocrits.
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mlakrid OSNN BASSMASTER Joined: February 2005 Location: Land O Lakes, FL Posts: more than you know! Posts: 2,277 Reputation: 1410 Power: 98	Re: Convince me on buying Vista Originally Posted by kcnychief I was thinking of ugprading to a Commadore 64 next actually..... YUCK... I will take my Atari 800XL any day over that over-rated POS!
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Grandmaster Electronica Addict Joined: February 2002 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 10,692 Reputation: 2960 Power: 234	Re: Convince me on buying Vista Right now for me there aren't any absolute must have features in Vista. No need to upgrade just for the sake of upgrading. I'm past that phase. IE7 is going to be available for XP. I don't use WMP. I don't need the security blanket as I'm a "fairly advanced" user that can tell if opening a link is going to mess up my system, or if a file is going to be a virus. Most "beginner" people will probably need Vista though, just for security reasons.

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j79zlr Glaanies script monkey Joined: February 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,758 Reputation: 1520 Power: 129	Re: Convince me on buying Vista Originally Posted by Grandmaster Right now for me there aren't any absolute must have features in Vista. And there are not going to be. Most "beginner" people will probably need Vista though, just for security reasons. The UAC is NOT going to solve anything, it is SO annoying and pops up for everything, it will be either disabled or completely ignored. The only true innovation will be if they can get IE to run in protected mode effectively. Time will tell, but concerning MSFT's history, I will venture to guess it wont really work correctly and/or will be compromised via virus/malware within days of Vistas release. If you've actually used Vista, you'll see little to no reason to upgrade. A little bit shinier, but still the same system. Configuration is a pain in the ass, everything is moved, hell I can't even set a static IP in my LAN on Vista. UAC is about the worst thing in the world. If you feel like paying $200-$400 for updated solitaire graphics, then Vista is worth the upgrade.
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