I bet you can't solve this one - Page 2

**gonaads** · August 3rd, 2006

Yes yes Event Viewer, by all means.

*gives Shamus MacNoob a fresh new sample*

Now this is the green pill, much stronger than the blue pill.

goldschlager101 · August 3rd, 2006

Originally Posted by Shamus MacNoob

Get a screenshot and get the rest of the message , leaving out bits and pieces hinders the process.

MacNoob,

I would give you a screenshot but unfortunately this only happens when I'm shutting down so there's no way I know of to save the screenshot.

I've been able to write down some additional letters and numbers since my first message. It is as follows: "End Program ei40MfDXwK + 6zRn..." Let me stress that the only information in the message is the name of the program. It gives me the option to click an "End Now" button but the computer just automatically overrides that and shuts down by itself.

goldschlager101 · August 3rd, 2006

MacNoob and everyone else kind enough to respond,

I've read through all of your messages and I've used Event Viewer like you suggested. (Thanks for the tip. At least I'm learning new stuff.) Nothing so far. I'm going to have to pay attention to the exact times I shut down and then revisit Event Viewer to see if anything shows up at those times in any of the logs. I'll report back soon. Definitely by tomorrow.

**falconguard** · August 3rd, 2006

May I suggest this, Code stuff starter
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/S.../Starter.shtml

It will show everything, just like task manager does, but ( and most importantly ) it will show you the modules that are loaded for each process running. Just click on a process and scroll through the module

cjdodd · August 3rd, 2006

It could be your virus checker thats causing your shutdown problem.

Some virus checkers like trend load up as a random series of characters to make them harder for viruses to shut down.

**Shamus MacNoob** · August 3rd, 2006

Originally Posted by gonaads

Yes yes Event Viewer, by all means.

*gives Shamus MacNoob a fresh new sample*

Now this is the green pill, much stronger than the blue pill.

Yeah baby!!!!!!!!!! cool stuff thx

Originally Posted by cjdodd

It could be your virus checker thats causing your shutdown problem.

Some virus checkers like trend load up as a random series of characters to make them harder for viruses to shut down.

Yes I was leaning towards the virus checker also ...

merged

Gus K · August 4th, 2006

Start over with a clean XP only install. Why troubleshoot an inferior install? Windows is twitchy enough as it is, a good foundation, free of any W98 registry remnants and overwritten W98 drivers, is the only way to go.

**perris** · August 4th, 2006

Originally Posted by Gus K

Start over with a clean XP only install. Why troubleshoot an inferior install? Windows is twitchy enough as it is, a good foundation, free of any W98 registry remnants and overwritten W98 drivers, is the only way to go.

I have never had a problem with an upgrade to xp...ever

**Shamus MacNoob** · August 4th, 2006

Originally Posted by perris

I have never had a problem with an upgrade to xp...ever

Same here never anything that went wrong with any form of an upgrade, thats one of those Urban Legends ...

goldschlager101 · August 4th, 2006

Okay gurus,

I've decided to stop investigating this. I really think it's something innocuous and it's not causing me any problems other than taking my computer an extra second to shut down. And nothing is eating up the CPU usage in Task Manager when I'm using the computer.

I checked all 3 logs in the Event Viewer. Absolutely nothing is showing up in the Application Error Records at the times I shut down, believe it or not. In the Security Audit Records only normal stuff like "User initiated logoff" and "Windows is shutting down" shows up at the times I shut down. In the System Error Records only "the Event Log service was stopped" shows up at the times I shut down.

I'd like to thank everyone for all of their help. It was much appreciated.

**gonaads** · August 4th, 2006

Hey___ Maybe?

In the System Error Records only "the Event Log service was stopped" shows up at the times I shut down.

Could that be it?

**kcnychief** · August 4th, 2006

"The Event Log Service Was Stopped" should be only a message/event, not an error/warning.

That is normal, it stops when you shut down

**lancer** · August 4th, 2006

Originally Posted by kcnychief

How do you install over an OS if the HD is formatted? OS -> Formatted HD -> New OS

No traces of what was there really.

Doesn't matter really, possible I mis-interpreted as well.

thats not true, just because you format a drive doesn't mean you are deleting anything, all formatting does is tell the OS its ok to write over that part of the drive or the whole drive.

All your files folders etc.. are still there until the blocks are rewritten.

In order to fully delete all files you need a program like kill disk that actually writes each and every block on your HD with 1's and 0's.

So it is theoretically possible for a virus to crossover from a formatted drive to the new os although i am not sure how it could do this.

vascobrito · August 17th, 2006

that allways happen to me in my xp pro, but in my case is about a file that belongs to my anti-virus.

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gonaads Beware the G-Man Joined: March 2002 Location: XP-erience, NTFS, OSNN, Bay Area, California Posts: 18,474 Reputation: 4070 Power: 348	Re: I bet you can't solve this one Yes yes Event Viewer, by all means. gives Shamus MacNoob a fresh new sample Now this is the green pill, much stronger than the blue pill. *"I play violent video games, I could snap at any second."*

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goldschlager101 OSNN Junior Addict Joined: August 2006 Posts: 6 Reputation: 0 Power: 71	Re: I bet you can't solve this one Originally Posted by Shamus MacNoob Get a screenshot and get the rest of the message , leaving out bits and pieces hinders the process. MacNoob, I would give you a screenshot but unfortunately this only happens when I'm shutting down so there's no way I know of to save the screenshot. I've been able to write down some additional letters and numbers since my first message. It is as follows: "End Program ei40MfDXwK + 6zRn..." Let me stress that the only information in the message is the name of the program. It gives me the option to click an "End Now" button but the computer just automatically overrides that and shuts down by itself.

August 3rd, 2006	Top \| #23
goldschlager101 OSNN Junior Addict Joined: August 2006 Posts: 6 Reputation: 0 Power: 71	Re: I bet you can't solve this one MacNoob and everyone else kind enough to respond, I've read through all of your messages and I've used Event Viewer like you suggested. (Thanks for the tip. At least I'm learning new stuff.) Nothing so far. I'm going to have to pay attention to the exact times I shut down and then revisit Event Viewer to see if anything shows up at those times in any of the logs. I'll report back soon. Definitely by tomorrow.

August 3rd, 2006	Top \| #24
falconguard Carbon based lifeform Joined: February 2004 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,406 Reputation: 2305 Power: 158	Re: I bet you can't solve this one May I suggest this, Code stuff starter http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/S.../Starter.shtml It will show everything, just like task manager does, but ( and most importantly ) it will show you the modules that are loaded for each process running. Just click on a process and scroll through the module

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cjdodd OSNN Junior Addict Joined: April 2004 Posts: 18 Reputation: 40 Power: 99	Re: I bet you can't solve this one It could be your virus checker thats causing your shutdown problem. Some virus checkers like trend load up as a random series of characters to make them harder for viruses to shut down.

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Shamus MacNoob OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: January 2002 Location: Brossard,Quebec Posts: 4,199 Blog Entries: 1 Reputation: 1481 Power: 182	Originally Posted by gonaads Yes yes Event Viewer, by all means. gives Shamus MacNoob a fresh new sample Now this is the green pill, much stronger than the blue pill. Yeah baby!!!!!!!!!! cool stuff thx Originally Posted by cjdodd It could be your virus checker thats causing your shutdown problem. Some virus checkers like trend load up as a random series of characters to make them harder for viruses to shut down. Yes I was leaning towards the virus checker also ... merged ASUS PN5-E SLI,Intel E8400,2 x 8800GTX 768mb SLI,ASUS VW266H 26 inch LCD, 8 GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer, Silverstone Strider 850watt PSU.Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit.

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Gus K NTFS abuser Joined: November 2002 Location: USA Posts: 380 Reputation: 30 Power: 120	Re: I bet you can't solve this one Start over with a clean XP only install. Why troubleshoot an inferior install? Windows is twitchy enough as it is, a good foundation, free of any W98 registry remnants and overwritten W98 drivers, is the only way to go.

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perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,258 Reputation: 4333 Power: 291	Re: I bet you can't solve this one Originally Posted by Gus K Start over with a clean XP only install. Why troubleshoot an inferior install? Windows is twitchy enough as it is, a good foundation, free of any W98 registry remnants and overwritten W98 drivers, is the only way to go. I have never had a problem with an upgrade to xp...ever IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'VE DONE IT'S WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO

August 4th, 2006	Top \| #29
Shamus MacNoob OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: January 2002 Location: Brossard,Quebec Posts: 4,199 Blog Entries: 1 Reputation: 1481 Power: 182	Re: I bet you can't solve this one Originally Posted by perris I have never had a problem with an upgrade to xp...ever Same here never anything that went wrong with any form of an upgrade, thats one of those Urban Legends ... ASUS PN5-E SLI,Intel E8400,2 x 8800GTX 768mb SLI,ASUS VW266H 26 inch LCD, 8 GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer, Silverstone Strider 850watt PSU.Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit.

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goldschlager101 OSNN Junior Addict Joined: August 2006 Posts: 6 Reputation: 0 Power: 71	Re: I bet you can't solve this one Okay gurus, I've decided to stop investigating this. I really think it's something innocuous and it's not causing me any problems other than taking my computer an extra second to shut down. And nothing is eating up the CPU usage in Task Manager when I'm using the computer. I checked all 3 logs in the Event Viewer. Absolutely nothing is showing up in the Application Error Records at the times I shut down, believe it or not. In the Security Audit Records only normal stuff like "User initiated logoff" and "Windows is shutting down" shows up at the times I shut down. In the System Error Records only "the Event Log service was stopped" shows up at the times I shut down. I'd like to thank everyone for all of their help. It was much appreciated.

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gonaads Beware the G-Man Joined: March 2002 Location: XP-erience, NTFS, OSNN, Bay Area, California Posts: 18,474 Reputation: 4070 Power: 348	Re: I bet you can't solve this one Hey___ Maybe? In the System Error Records only "the Event Log service was stopped" shows up at the times I shut down. Could that be it? *"I play violent video games, I could snap at any second."*

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lancer There is no answer! Joined: October 2004 Location: FL, USA Posts: 3,087 Blog Entries: 3 Reputation: 1430 Power: 137	Re: I bet you can't solve this one Originally Posted by kcnychief How do you install over an OS if the HD is formatted? OS -> Formatted HD -> New OS No traces of what was there really. Doesn't matter really, possible I mis-interpreted as well. thats not true, just because you format a drive doesn't mean you are deleting anything, all formatting does is tell the OS its ok to write over that part of the drive or the whole drive. All your files folders etc.. are still there until the blocks are rewritten. In order to fully delete all files you need a program like kill disk that actually writes each and every block on your HD with 1's and 0's. So it is theoretically possible for a virus to crossover from a formatted drive to the new os although i am not sure how it could do this. "The world has just got smaller now, but people have got further away."

August 17th, 2006	Top \| #34
vascobrito OSNN One Post Wonder Joined: August 2006 Posts: 1 Reputation: 0 Power: 0	Re: I bet you can't solve this one that allways happen to me in my xp pro, but in my case is about a file that belongs to my anti-virus.

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