Windows Vista Build 5308 (Feb/Ent CTP) - Page 8

**NetRyder** · March 24th, 2006

Originally Posted by GEN3RIC

I ask just one more question... I burned the DVD as an ISO, will it boot correctly to install? Never done it with not even once with these builds. Just checking in advance.

Ok maybe one more question! I already have 32bit 5308. Will it install directly over 32bit? Or should I make another partition? Or better yet, get rid of 32bit completely? How can I even do that..? It's tough.

Yes, the DVD image is bootable by default. Just make sure the DVD drive is set as your first boot device in your BIOS settings when you reboot, and the Vista installer should come right up if the DVD's in the drive.

If you already have 5308 x86 installed on a partition, first format that partition during setup (on the screen that asks you to choose where you want it installed) and install 5308 x64 on it. You can't upgrade the 32-bit version to x64.

**Grandmaster** · March 24th, 2006

Merge those bloody posts

**NetRyder** · March 24th, 2006

Originally Posted by Grandmaster

Merge those bloody posts

Each post answers different questions from different people. I prefer to keep separate posts in such a situation so that people can easily quote my responses in follow-up posts.

If it bothers you that much, merge them yourself.

GEN3RIC · March 24th, 2006

Originally Posted by NetRyder

Yes, the DVD image is bootable by default. Just make sure the DVD drive is set as your first boot device in your BIOS settings when you reboot, and the Vista installer should come right up if the DVD's in the drive.

If you already have 5308 x86 installed on a partition, first format that partition during setup (on the screen that asks you to choose where you want it installed) and install 5308 x64 on it. You can't upgrade the 32-bit version to x64.

Ok. Just what I needed to know, Id rather format than repartition my current XP systemroot, since my 200GB SATA is getting pretty thin on space having already been partitioned 3 times now.........

Still at work until 1130, maybe tomorrow I'll report back with some results on how things are going. Thanks.

**NetRyder** · March 24th, 2006

Threads merged

Originally Posted by landers

I cant get my 2200BG to work with vista.. can you help? I sent you a PM.. :-/ please, its been driving me freakin bonkers.

Are you attempting to install third-party drivers or the Intel PRO/Set application? There might be incompatibilities with either of them.
Vista already includes drivers for the 2200BG, and it worked out-of-the-box for me with the built-in wireless configuration tools.

landers · March 24th, 2006

Originally Posted by NetRyder

Threads merged

Are you attempting to install third-party drivers or the Intel PRO/Set application? There might be incompatibilities with either of them.
Vista already includes drivers for the 2200BG, and it worked out-of-the-box for me with the built-in wireless configuration tools.

WOW! Thank you so much.. I realized there were compatibility issues with the Pro/Wireless application. All fixed as of now though.. its running fine while windows controls the wireless device. Thank you so very much! you've been repped.

**kcnychief** · March 24th, 2006

Probably a dumb question, but I'll ask anyways

If we got that Tech Beta nomination thingy, and have access to the Beta, does that also in turn give us access to Connect, and possibly access to future beta testing of other software? Or, does that depend on how active we are in bug reporting?

**NetRyder** · March 24th, 2006

Originally Posted by kcnychief

Probably a dumb question, but I'll ask anyways

If we got that Tech Beta nomination thingy, and have access to the Beta, does that also in turn give us access to Connect, and possibly access to future beta testing of other software? Or, does that depend on how active we are in bug reporting?

Yes, you do get access to Connect, which means you can view and vote on bug reports. You also get access to the official beta newsgroups, which are incredibly active. If you have any questions about the build that nobody here can answer, that would probably be your best bet.

Being in this beta does not guarantee you access to future beta programs, but it definitely increases your chances. If you send in good reports (quality, not quantity), all the better.

IDLE · March 24th, 2006

i am trying to install Vista. I have DL it fromt eh connect.MS.com...the 64bit version and i have mounted it but when i try to run the setup.exe it says that this isnt a 32bit application.

any ideas?

i am DL the 32bit version of vista now..

**kcnychief** · March 24th, 2006

Are you running Windows XP 32-bit?

You can't upgrade from a 32-bit OS to a 64-bit OS. Must do a format and clean install.

I think

**NetRyder** · March 24th, 2006

Originally Posted by IDLE

i am trying to install Vista. I have DL it fromt eh connect.MS.com...the 64bit version and i have mounted it but when i try to run the setup.exe it says that this isnt a 32bit application.

any ideas?

i am DL the 32bit version of vista now..

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, you cannot start the x64 Vista installer from a 32-bit version of XP.
You'll need to boot from the x64 DVD if you want to install it.

IDLE · March 24th, 2006

Originally Posted by NetRyder

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, you cannot start the x64 Vista installer from a 32-bit version of XP.
You'll need to boot from the x64 DVD if you want to install it.

:runs around the corner shaking:

sorry i didnt want to read all 7 pages.

thank you for letting me know though.

**Admiral Michael** · March 24th, 2006

Originally Posted by NetRyder

Yes, you do get access to Connect, which means you can view and vote on bug reports. You also get access to the official beta newsgroups, which are incredibly active. If you have any questions about the build that nobody here can answer, that would probably be your best bet.

Being in this beta does not guarantee you access to future beta programs, but it definitely increases your chances. If you send in good reports (quality, not quantity), all the better.

I am totally new to newsgroups, how do I access em?

**NetRyder** · March 24th, 2006

Originally Posted by Admiral Michael

I am totally new to newsgroups, how do I access em?

You'll need a newsreader first - Outlook Express and Thunderbird are popular choices.

Now login to Connect, click "My Participation," select the Vista program, click "Newsgroups" on the left, and you'll see instructions on how to configure OE (you should be able to figure it out if you decide to use Tbird instead). You'll also have to set a password for your account in the same place.

Once you setup the account, you'll subscribe to all the sections you're interested in, and from that point on, it works a lot like email.

**Admiral Michael** · March 24th, 2006

Thanks, downloaded Thunderbird. Have to wait up to 4 hrs for my login to go thru tho.

Tool 20min to download 6mb

got alot of downloads going

**Khayman** · March 24th, 2006

god damn it, still can't get it to install. i think my olde test box is fubar. setup keeops crashing or bsod.
Didn't want to have to dual boot causewanted to network between xp and vista and sue at the same time

**Electronic Punk** · March 24th, 2006

Just want to ask people not to post the NDA information that came off the announcements forum today, as I want to see how it plays out with those that did post, so please avoid quoting the newsgroup post for now, what? it is on www.bink.nu

Info not from the newsgroup indicates 5342 if for some reason that number means anything

**NetRyder** · March 24th, 2006

Originally Posted by Khayman

god damn it, still can't get it to install. i think my olde test box is fubar. setup keeops crashing or bsod.
Didn't want to have to dual boot causewanted to network between xp and vista and sue at the same time

Ae you sure it's not a DVD read issue? That came up earlier in the thread. The best way to find out is to run the CRC test (download the CRC Utility from the same place on Connect) on the DVD while it's in the drive of the machine you want to install it on. If it passes the CRC check, then you know it's not an issue with the DVD/drive.

Originally Posted by Electronic Punk

Just want to ask people not to post the NDA information that came off the announcements forum today, as I want to see how it plays out with those that did post, so please avoid quoting the newsgroup post for now, what? it is on www.bink.nu

Info not from the newsgroup indicates 5342 if for some reason that number means anything

Hehe...just when a whole bunch of people here spent a few hours pulling down 5308.

**Khayman** · March 24th, 2006

Originally Posted by NetRyder

Ae you sure it's not a DVD read issue? That came up earlier in the thread. The best way to find out is to run the CRC test (download the CRC Utility from the same place on Connect) on the DVD while it's in the drive of the machine you want to install it on. If it passes the CRC check, then you know it's not an issue with the DVD/drive.

how do i run it on the machine with the dvd drive, theres no OS on it

**Electronic Punk** · March 24th, 2006

Looks like Paul Thurrott heard it was gonna go RTM on August 25th, but has now been delayed two months...

...Thats still over 2 months we will get to play with it before it hit the shelves I guess.

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NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 298	Re: Windows Vista Build 5308 (Feb/Ent CTP) Originally Posted by GEN3RIC I ask just one more question... I burned the DVD as an ISO, will it boot correctly to install? Never done it with not even once with these builds. Just checking in advance. Ok maybe one more question! I already have 32bit 5308. Will it install directly over 32bit? Or should I make another partition? Or better yet, get rid of 32bit completely? How can I even do that..? It's tough. Yes, the DVD image is bootable by default. Just make sure the DVD drive is set as your first boot device in your BIOS settings when you reboot, and the Vista installer should come right up if the DVD's in the drive. If you already have 5308 x86 installed on a partition, first format that partition during setup (on the screen that asks you to choose where you want it installed) and install 5308 x64 on it. You can't upgrade the 32-bit version to x64. http://kunal.kundaje.net

March 24th, 2006	Top \| #142
Grandmaster Electronica Addict Joined: February 2002 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 10,574 Reputation: 2960 Power: 260	Re: Windows Vista Build 5308 (Feb/Ent CTP) Merge those bloody posts

March 24th, 2006	Top \| #143
NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 298	Re: Windows Vista Build 5308 (Feb/Ent CTP) Originally Posted by Grandmaster Merge those bloody posts Each post answers different questions from different people. I prefer to keep separate posts in such a situation so that people can easily quote my responses in follow-up posts. If it bothers you that much, merge them yourself. http://kunal.kundaje.net

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GEN3RIC OSNN Senior Addict Joined: April 2005 Location: Woodbury, MN Posts: 634 Reputation: 260 Power: 96	Re: Windows Vista Build 5308 (Feb/Ent CTP) Originally Posted by NetRyder Yes, the DVD image is bootable by default. Just make sure the DVD drive is set as your first boot device in your BIOS settings when you reboot, and the Vista installer should come right up if the DVD's in the drive. If you already have 5308 x86 installed on a partition, first format that partition during setup (on the screen that asks you to choose where you want it installed) and install 5308 x64 on it. You can't upgrade the 32-bit version to x64. Ok. Just what I needed to know, Id rather format than repartition my current XP systemroot, since my 200GB SATA is getting pretty thin on space having already been partitioned 3 times now......... Still at work until 1130, maybe tomorrow I'll report back with some results on how things are going. Thanks.

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NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 298	Re: Windows Vista Beta 1 announced! Threads merged Originally Posted by landers I cant get my 2200BG to work with vista.. can you help? I sent you a PM.. :-/ please, its been driving me freakin bonkers. Are you attempting to install third-party drivers or the Intel PRO/Set application? There might be incompatibilities with either of them. Vista already includes drivers for the 2200BG, and it worked out-of-the-box for me with the built-in wireless configuration tools. http://kunal.kundaje.net

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landers OSNN Junior Addict Joined: March 2006 Posts: 2 Reputation: 0 Power: 0	Re: Windows Vista Beta 1 announced! Originally Posted by NetRyder Threads merged Are you attempting to install third-party drivers or the Intel PRO/Set application? There might be incompatibilities with either of them. Vista already includes drivers for the 2200BG, and it worked out-of-the-box for me with the built-in wireless configuration tools. WOW! Thank you so much.. I realized there were compatibility issues with the Pro/Wireless application. All fixed as of now though.. its running fine while windows controls the wireless device. Thank you so very much! you've been repped.

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kcnychief █▄█ ▀█▄ █ Joined: April 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,949 Reputation: 4941 Power: 305	Re: Windows Vista Build 5308 (Feb/Ent CTP) Probably a dumb question, but I'll ask anyways If we got that Tech Beta nomination thingy, and have access to the Beta, does that also in turn give us access to Connect, and possibly access to future beta testing of other software? Or, does that depend on how active we are in bug reporting? XBOX Live Gamertag: kcnychief

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NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 298	Re: Windows Vista Build 5308 (Feb/Ent CTP) Originally Posted by kcnychief Probably a dumb question, but I'll ask anyways If we got that Tech Beta nomination thingy, and have access to the Beta, does that also in turn give us access to Connect, and possibly access to future beta testing of other software? Or, does that depend on how active we are in bug reporting? Yes, you do get access to Connect, which means you can view and vote on bug reports. You also get access to the official beta newsgroups, which are incredibly active. If you have any questions about the build that nobody here can answer, that would probably be your best bet. Being in this beta does not guarantee you access to future beta programs, but it definitely increases your chances. If you send in good reports (quality, not quantity), all the better. http://kunal.kundaje.net

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IDLE OSNN Senior Addict Joined: February 2004 Posts: 375 Reputation: 80 Power: 104	Re: Windows Vista Build 5308 (Feb/Ent CTP) i am trying to install Vista. I have DL it fromt eh connect.MS.com...the 64bit version and i have mounted it but when i try to run the setup.exe it says that this isnt a 32bit application. any ideas? i am DL the 32bit version of vista now..

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kcnychief █▄█ ▀█▄ █ Joined: April 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,949 Reputation: 4941 Power: 305	Re: Windows Vista Build 5308 (Feb/Ent CTP) Are you running Windows XP 32-bit? You can't upgrade from a 32-bit OS to a 64-bit OS. Must do a format and clean install. I think XBOX Live Gamertag: kcnychief

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NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 298	Re: Windows Vista Build 5308 (Feb/Ent CTP) Originally Posted by IDLE i am trying to install Vista. I have DL it fromt eh connect.MS.com...the 64bit version and i have mounted it but when i try to run the setup.exe it says that this isnt a 32bit application. any ideas? i am DL the 32bit version of vista now.. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, you cannot start the x64 Vista installer from a 32-bit version of XP. You'll need to boot from the x64 DVD if you want to install it. http://kunal.kundaje.net

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IDLE OSNN Senior Addict Joined: February 2004 Posts: 375 Reputation: 80 Power: 104	Re: Windows Vista Build 5308 (Feb/Ent CTP) Originally Posted by NetRyder As I mentioned earlier in this thread, you cannot start the x64 Vista installer from a 32-bit version of XP. You'll need to boot from the x64 DVD if you want to install it. :runs around the corner shaking: sorry i didnt want to read all 7 pages. thank you for letting me know though.

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Admiral Michael Michaelsoft Systems CEO Joined: February 2003 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Canada Earth Posts: 3,125 Blog Entries: 8 Reputation: 2216 Power: 166	Re: Windows Vista Build 5308 (Feb/Ent CTP) Originally Posted by NetRyder Yes, you do get access to Connect, which means you can view and vote on bug reports. You also get access to the official beta newsgroups, which are incredibly active. If you have any questions about the build that nobody here can answer, that would probably be your best bet. Being in this beta does not guarantee you access to future beta programs, but it definitely increases your chances. If you send in good reports (quality, not quantity), all the better. I am totally new to newsgroups, how do I access em? Apple MacBook Pro Intel Quad-Core i7 2GHz \| Corsair 8GB 1333MHz DDR3 Memory \| WD 750GB 7200RPM Black Edition SATA Hard Drive \| Intel HD Graphics 3000/AMD Radeon HD 6490M 256MB GDDR5 \| 15.4" LED backlit glossy screen @ 1440x900 \| Dual Band Airport Wireless/Bluetooth \| Gigabit Ethernet \| Thunderbolt I/O \| Built-in Webcam \| Backlit Keyboard \| Firewire 800 \| DVDRW \| OS X Lion 10.7.1 My Site \| My DVD Collection \| Your Chevrolet Guy

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NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 298	Re: Windows Vista Build 5308 (Feb/Ent CTP) Originally Posted by Admiral Michael I am totally new to newsgroups, how do I access em? You'll need a newsreader first - Outlook Express and Thunderbird are popular choices. Now login to Connect, click "My Participation," select the Vista program, click "Newsgroups" on the left, and you'll see instructions on how to configure OE (you should be able to figure it out if you decide to use Tbird instead). You'll also have to set a password for your account in the same place. Once you setup the account, you'll subscribe to all the sections you're interested in, and from that point on, it works a lot like email. http://kunal.kundaje.net

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Admiral Michael Michaelsoft Systems CEO Joined: February 2003 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Canada Earth Posts: 3,125 Blog Entries: 8 Reputation: 2216 Power: 166	Re: Windows Vista Build 5308 (Feb/Ent CTP) Thanks, downloaded Thunderbird. Have to wait up to 4 hrs for my login to go thru tho. Tool 20min to download 6mb got alot of downloads going Apple MacBook Pro Intel Quad-Core i7 2GHz \| Corsair 8GB 1333MHz DDR3 Memory \| WD 750GB 7200RPM Black Edition SATA Hard Drive \| Intel HD Graphics 3000/AMD Radeon HD 6490M 256MB GDDR5 \| 15.4" LED backlit glossy screen @ 1440x900 \| Dual Band Airport Wireless/Bluetooth \| Gigabit Ethernet \| Thunderbolt I/O \| Built-in Webcam \| Backlit Keyboard \| Firewire 800 \| DVDRW \| OS X Lion 10.7.1 My Site \| My DVD Collection \| Your Chevrolet Guy

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Khayman I'm sorry Hal... Joined: January 2002 Location: England Posts: 5,514 Reputation: 1210 Power: 194	Re: Windows Vista Build 5308 (Feb/Ent CTP) god damn it, still can't get it to install. i think my olde test box is fubar. setup keeops crashing or bsod. Didn't want to have to dual boot causewanted to network between xp and vista and sue at the same time "I'm on the server side. I don't know what side you're on"

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Electronic Punk The Last High Joined: December 2001 Location: London Posts: 18,510 Blog Entries: 51 Reputation: 3652 Power: 349	Re: Windows Vista Build 5308 (Feb/Ent CTP) Just want to ask people not to post the NDA information that came off the announcements forum today, as I want to see how it plays out with those that did post, so please avoid quoting the newsgroup post for now, what? it is on www.bink.nu Info not from the newsgroup indicates 5342 if for some reason that number means anything

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NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 298	Re: Windows Vista Build 5308 (Feb/Ent CTP) Originally Posted by Khayman god damn it, still can't get it to install. i think my olde test box is fubar. setup keeops crashing or bsod. Didn't want to have to dual boot causewanted to network between xp and vista and sue at the same time Ae you sure it's not a DVD read issue? That came up earlier in the thread. The best way to find out is to run the CRC test (download the CRC Utility from the same place on Connect) on the DVD while it's in the drive of the machine you want to install it on. If it passes the CRC check, then you know it's not an issue with the DVD/drive. Originally Posted by Electronic Punk Just want to ask people not to post the NDA information that came off the announcements forum today, as I want to see how it plays out with those that did post, so please avoid quoting the newsgroup post for now, what? it is on www.bink.nu Info not from the newsgroup indicates 5342 if for some reason that number means anything Hehe...just when a whole bunch of people here spent a few hours pulling down 5308. http://kunal.kundaje.net

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Khayman I'm sorry Hal... Joined: January 2002 Location: England Posts: 5,514 Reputation: 1210 Power: 194	Re: Windows Vista Build 5308 (Feb/Ent CTP) Originally Posted by NetRyder Ae you sure it's not a DVD read issue? That came up earlier in the thread. The best way to find out is to run the CRC test (download the CRC Utility from the same place on Connect) on the DVD while it's in the drive of the machine you want to install it on. If it passes the CRC check, then you know it's not an issue with the DVD/drive. how do i run it on the machine with the dvd drive, theres no OS on it "I'm on the server side. I don't know what side you're on"

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Electronic Punk The Last High Joined: December 2001 Location: London Posts: 18,510 Blog Entries: 51 Reputation: 3652 Power: 349	Re: Windows Vista Build 5308 (Feb/Ent CTP) Looks like Paul Thurrott heard it was gonna go RTM on August 25th, but has now been delayed two months... ...Thats still over 2 months we will get to play with it before it hit the shelves I guess.