Strange devices in device manger after app. installs

Eck · August 2nd, 2005

Alright, so I had my parents buy this E-machine. It was such a sweet deal I couldn't resist, plus they're gonna need a decent PC when I take mine with me. T3395, 3000+ Sempron 512K L2, 333FSB, 256MB DDR 3200, 80GB, DVD/CD-RW, Integrated GeForce 4MX, and so on. Also came with a 17" CRT. All that for $299 no rebates. Gotta love that. 1GB of memory on the way...

So anyway, all is good except for a few little things. Sometimes after installing software, such as sandra for example, upon reboot it says "new hardware found" and displays the wizard. For sandra, the hardware was "sandra service." It was in device manager, so I just uninstalled it and it never came back. Norton Antivirus 2002 did the same thing with something along the lines of "Symantec WMI service." 3DMark 01 did the same to it, but I can't recall the device name.

Why is it installing services as devices when installing software and how can I prevent this from happening? It's not a big deal, but it is rather annoying.

Eck

Eck · August 3rd, 2005

Bump.

**Mastershakes** · August 3rd, 2005

Simple answer: The services are installed, and usually needed by the application.

**kcnychief** · August 3rd, 2005

I agree with MasterShakes. Some applications need to install as a service to run. For instance when Symantec has WMI, it needs to run ontop of other applications so it can utilize it's elevated priveleges. Don't complain, just appreciate it

Eck · August 4th, 2005

Originally Posted by kcnychief

I agree with MasterShakes. Some applications need to install as a service to run. For instance when Symantec has WMI, it needs to run ontop of other applications so it can utilize it's elevated priveleges. Don't complain, just appreciate it

That's fine, but it shouldn't show up in device manager as an unkown device. Why is it doing that?

**Admiral Michael** · August 4th, 2005

there wasnt anything mentioned about an "Unknown device"

Eck · August 4th, 2005

Originally Posted by Admiral Michael

there wasnt anything mentioned about an "Unknown device"

My bad. In the very first post, by "showing up in device manager" I meant it was showing up as a device missing a driver with an exclamation point. Otherwise I would've never noticed it... hence it popping up the new hardware found dialogue box.

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Eck .user Joined: June 2002 Location: United States Posts: 393 Reputation: 0 Power: 125	Strange devices in device manger after app. installs Alright, so I had my parents buy this E-machine. It was such a sweet deal I couldn't resist, plus they're gonna need a decent PC when I take mine with me. T3395, 3000+ Sempron 512K L2, 333FSB, 256MB DDR 3200, 80GB, DVD/CD-RW, Integrated GeForce 4MX, and so on. Also came with a 17" CRT. All that for $299 no rebates. Gotta love that. 1GB of memory on the way... So anyway, all is good except for a few little things. Sometimes after installing software, such as sandra for example, upon reboot it says "new hardware found" and displays the wizard. For sandra, the hardware was "sandra service." It was in device manager, so I just uninstalled it and it never came back. Norton Antivirus 2002 did the same thing with something along the lines of "Symantec WMI service." 3DMark 01 did the same to it, but I can't recall the device name. Why is it installing services as devices when installing software and how can I prevent this from happening? It's not a big deal, but it is rather annoying. Eck • Windows XP Home Edition SP2 • Pentium 4 3.0GHz • 1GB Kingston HyperX DDR 3200 • Asus P4P800 Motherboard • ATI Radeon X850 XT • SB Audigy 2 ZS • WD 36GB 10K Raptors RAID 0 • WD 120GB 7200 HD w/ 8MB Cache • 12x DVD+/-RW • 52x24x52 CD-RW • Screenshot \| Desk \| System Info \| 3D Benchmarks • Cardomain.com - My 96 Camaro Z28

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Eck .user Joined: June 2002 Location: United States Posts: 393 Reputation: 0 Power: 125	Re: Strange devices in device manger after app. installs Bump. • Windows XP Home Edition SP2 • Pentium 4 3.0GHz • 1GB Kingston HyperX DDR 3200 • Asus P4P800 Motherboard • ATI Radeon X850 XT • SB Audigy 2 ZS • WD 36GB 10K Raptors RAID 0 • WD 120GB 7200 HD w/ 8MB Cache • 12x DVD+/-RW • 52x24x52 CD-RW • Screenshot \| Desk \| System Info \| 3D Benchmarks • Cardomain.com - My 96 Camaro Z28

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Mastershakes OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: July 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,721 Reputation: 1040 Power: 124	Re: Strange devices in device manger after app. installs Simple answer: The services are installed, and usually needed by the application.

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kcnychief █▄█ ▀█▄ █ Joined: April 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 16,949 Reputation: 4941 Power: 305	Re: Strange devices in device manger after app. installs I agree with MasterShakes. Some applications need to install as a service to run. For instance when Symantec has WMI, it needs to run ontop of other applications so it can utilize it's elevated priveleges. Don't complain, just appreciate it XBOX Live Gamertag: kcnychief

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Eck .user Joined: June 2002 Location: United States Posts: 393 Reputation: 0 Power: 125	Re: Strange devices in device manger after app. installs Originally Posted by kcnychief I agree with MasterShakes. Some applications need to install as a service to run. For instance when Symantec has WMI, it needs to run ontop of other applications so it can utilize it's elevated priveleges. Don't complain, just appreciate it That's fine, but it shouldn't show up in device manager as an unkown device. Why is it doing that? • Windows XP Home Edition SP2 • Pentium 4 3.0GHz • 1GB Kingston HyperX DDR 3200 • Asus P4P800 Motherboard • ATI Radeon X850 XT • SB Audigy 2 ZS • WD 36GB 10K Raptors RAID 0 • WD 120GB 7200 HD w/ 8MB Cache • 12x DVD+/-RW • 52x24x52 CD-RW • Screenshot \| Desk \| System Info \| 3D Benchmarks • Cardomain.com - My 96 Camaro Z28

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Eck .user Joined: June 2002 Location: United States Posts: 393 Reputation: 0 Power: 125	Re: Strange devices in device manger after app. installs Originally Posted by Admiral Michael there wasnt anything mentioned about an "Unknown device" My bad. In the very first post, by "showing up in device manager" I meant it was showing up as a device missing a driver with an exclamation point. Otherwise I would've never noticed it... hence it popping up the new hardware found dialogue box. • Windows XP Home Edition SP2 • Pentium 4 3.0GHz • 1GB Kingston HyperX DDR 3200 • Asus P4P800 Motherboard • ATI Radeon X850 XT • SB Audigy 2 ZS • WD 36GB 10K Raptors RAID 0 • WD 120GB 7200 HD w/ 8MB Cache • 12x DVD+/-RW • 52x24x52 CD-RW • Screenshot \| Desk \| System Info \| 3D Benchmarks • Cardomain.com - My 96 Camaro Z28

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