Longhorn Beta 1 June 30 ?

napalmnthemorning · June 6th, 2005

According to Paul Thurrott and our very own NetRyder we our hearing that June 30th will be the release date of LH beta 1. ? My guess is that it will be more like a pre-beta (post alpha 5048

) semi workable OS minus most of the bells and whistles, and an actual beta 1 workable version won't be out until July-Aug. The delays are typical and I can't see any integration of the TCP/IP Chimney component as its still being held up in the courts. And if not Chimney then what. Alacritech is saying MS stole their architecture for networking and can't display LH to the public at all. Isn't this an essential part of the OS for networking, and if an actual beta 1 was coming out in three weeks wouldn't they be showing up at beta.microsoft.com for testing. Just wondering what others think.

**NetRyder** · June 6th, 2005

From what I know right now, there won't be a new build available in June.
I'll see if I can find out more.

**Electronic Punk** · June 6th, 2005

Just don't blow your NDA

Have you got Longhorn on your beta.microsoft.com account mate?
Mine hasn't appeared yet

**NetRyder** · June 6th, 2005

No NDA's to blow just yet.

No LH builds here either...apart from the 5048 DVD I got at WinHEC.

**Electronic Punk** · June 6th, 2005

Has the link appeared on your beta site tho?

**NetRyder** · June 6th, 2005

No links yet, but there is something else.
Look at the page where you can change your address information.

**Electronic Punk** · June 6th, 2005

Excellent

**Jewelzz** · June 6th, 2005

Originally Posted by NetRyder

Look at the page where you can change your address information.

Nothing there for me

**Electronic Punk** · June 6th, 2005

Did you apply? ;p

**Johnny** · June 6th, 2005

I just applied for the beta program. It said is giving me a guest account. will this get a regular account with them ??

**Electronic Punk** · June 6th, 2005

Just keep an eye on requests for beta testers.

**NetRyder** · June 6th, 2005

Originally Posted by Electronic Punk

Did you apply? ;p

I'm guessing we got it from the WinHEC signup.

**NetRyder** · June 6th, 2005

By the way, I'm hearing Beta 1 is now scheduled for mid-July.

**Kush** · June 6th, 2005

just my 2 cents. never try a beta operating system (especially from microsoft lol)

**NetRyder** · June 7th, 2005

Let's rephrase that. Never try a beta operating system on a production machine. Even Microsoft strongly advises against it. On the other hand, if nobody tried beta builds, you'd end up with horrid, buggy RTM builds.

5048 was a decent build. I haven't heard of it killing anybody's system, and it was an alpha. Beta 1 should be quite stable.

napalmnthemorning · June 7th, 2005

I learned my lesson with 4051 and had to reinstall my OS. If you do install on your production PC you should install the beta OS on a seperate partitian, or better yet use a virtual PC program. I always backup my XP Pro before beta installs using Acronis True Image and keep those images on a seperate partitian drives different from your XP Pro and LH beta partitians. As NetRyder said, your best bet is to not install at all on your main production PC, too risky.

napalmnthemorning · June 7th, 2005

NR/EP can LH continue development with the Chimney TCP/IP architecture even with the lawsuits pending Alacritech is saying MS stole their architecture, so doesn't this stop any TCP/IP integration into LH, or is this only for public release product.

**NetRyder** · June 7th, 2005

I really don't know what the implications of that lawsuit are, to be honest.
I do know that development is definitely still in progress. Beta 1 code-completion is expected towards the middle of this month, followed by a one-month internal testing/QA period, and a beta 1 rollout in mid-July. As always, things are subject to change, but that's what the current schedule looks like.

napalmnthemorning · June 7th, 2005

Thanks NR !

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napalmnthemorning OSNN Senior Addict Joined: June 2002 Location: OREGON Posts: 719 Reputation: 60 Power: 128	Longhorn Beta 1 June 30 ? According to Paul Thurrott and our very own NetRyder we our hearing that June 30th will be the release date of LH beta 1. ? My guess is that it will be more like a pre-beta (post alpha 5048 ) semi workable OS minus most of the bells and whistles, and an actual beta 1 workable version won't be out until July-Aug. The delays are typical and I can't see any integration of the TCP/IP Chimney component as its still being held up in the courts. And if not Chimney then what. Alacritech is saying MS stole their architecture for networking and can't display LH to the public at all. Isn't this an essential part of the OS for networking, and if an actual beta 1 was coming out in three weeks wouldn't they be showing up at beta.microsoft.com for testing. Just wondering what others think.

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NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 298	Re: Longhorn Beta 1 June 30 ? From what I know right now, there won't be a new build available in June. I'll see if I can find out more. http://kunal.kundaje.net

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Electronic Punk The Last High Joined: December 2001 Location: London Posts: 18,510 Blog Entries: 51 Reputation: 3652 Power: 349	Re: Longhorn Beta 1 June 30 ? Just don't blow your NDA Have you got Longhorn on your beta.microsoft.com account mate? Mine hasn't appeared yet

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NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 298	Re: Longhorn Beta 1 June 30 ? No NDA's to blow just yet. No LH builds here either...apart from the 5048 DVD I got at WinHEC. http://kunal.kundaje.net

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Electronic Punk The Last High Joined: December 2001 Location: London Posts: 18,510 Blog Entries: 51 Reputation: 3652 Power: 349	Re: Longhorn Beta 1 June 30 ? Has the link appeared on your beta site tho?

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NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 298	Re: Longhorn Beta 1 June 30 ? No links yet, but there is something else. Look at the page where you can change your address information. http://kunal.kundaje.net

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Electronic Punk The Last High Joined: December 2001 Location: London Posts: 18,510 Blog Entries: 51 Reputation: 3652 Power: 349	Re: Longhorn Beta 1 June 30 ? Excellent

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Jewelzz Queen of Farts Joined: March 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 10,949 Blog Entries: 7 Reputation: 1843 Power: 252	Re: Longhorn Beta 1 June 30 ? Originally Posted by NetRyder Look at the page where you can change your address information. Nothing there for me

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Electronic Punk The Last High Joined: December 2001 Location: London Posts: 18,510 Blog Entries: 51 Reputation: 3652 Power: 349	Re: Longhorn Beta 1 June 30 ? Did you apply? ;p

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Johnny Paul Reed Smith Joined: January 2004 Location: Happy Valley Posts: 4,869 Reputation: 2369 Power: 173	Re: Longhorn Beta 1 June 30 ? I just applied for the beta program. It said is giving me a guest account. will this get a regular account with them ?? Paul Reed Smith.

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Electronic Punk The Last High Joined: December 2001 Location: London Posts: 18,510 Blog Entries: 51 Reputation: 3652 Power: 349	Re: Longhorn Beta 1 June 30 ? Just keep an eye on requests for beta testers.

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NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 298	Re: Longhorn Beta 1 June 30 ? Originally Posted by Electronic Punk Did you apply? ;p I'm guessing we got it from the WinHEC signup. http://kunal.kundaje.net

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NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 298	Re: Longhorn Beta 1 June 30 ? By the way, I'm hearing Beta 1 is now scheduled for mid-July. http://kunal.kundaje.net

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Kush High On Life! Joined: January 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 4,590 Reputation: 1300 Power: 185	Re: Longhorn Beta 1 June 30 ? just my 2 cents. never try a beta operating system (especially from microsoft lol) If Someones post is helpful or makes you laugh, reward the person by clicking on this button--->

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NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 298	Re: Longhorn Beta 1 June 30 ? Let's rephrase that. Never try a beta operating system on a production machine. Even Microsoft strongly advises against it. On the other hand, if nobody tried beta builds, you'd end up with horrid, buggy RTM builds. 5048 was a decent build. I haven't heard of it killing anybody's system, and it was an alpha. Beta 1 should be quite stable. http://kunal.kundaje.net

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napalmnthemorning OSNN Senior Addict Joined: June 2002 Location: OREGON Posts: 719 Reputation: 60 Power: 128	Re: Longhorn Beta 1 June 30 ? I learned my lesson with 4051 and had to reinstall my OS. If you do install on your production PC you should install the beta OS on a seperate partitian, or better yet use a virtual PC program. I always backup my XP Pro before beta installs using Acronis True Image and keep those images on a seperate partitian drives different from your XP Pro and LH beta partitians. As NetRyder said, your best bet is to not install at all on your main production PC, too risky.

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napalmnthemorning OSNN Senior Addict Joined: June 2002 Location: OREGON Posts: 719 Reputation: 60 Power: 128	Re: Longhorn Beta 1 June 30 ? NR/EP can LH continue development with the Chimney TCP/IP architecture even with the lawsuits pending Alacritech is saying MS stole their architecture, so doesn't this stop any TCP/IP integration into LH, or is this only for public release product.

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NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 298	Re: Longhorn Beta 1 June 30 ? I really don't know what the implications of that lawsuit are, to be honest. I do know that development is definitely still in progress. Beta 1 code-completion is expected towards the middle of this month, followed by a one-month internal testing/QA period, and a beta 1 rollout in mid-July. As always, things are subject to change, but that's what the current schedule looks like. http://kunal.kundaje.net

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napalmnthemorning OSNN Senior Addict Joined: June 2002 Location: OREGON Posts: 719 Reputation: 60 Power: 128	Re: Longhorn Beta 1 June 30 ? Thanks NR !