weird issue with XP pro

IDLE · February 1st, 2005

when ever i drag and drop a file, no matter the extenson, the pc seems to lock up or pause. doesnt matter if im doing this to a different partition or with in the a partition. only way for me to move a file is to copy it then go to the folder and select paste. any ideas?

**ming** · February 1st, 2005

not sure about that... i've always used right-click->copy/move.

IDLE · February 1st, 2005

also seems to take forever to delete. if you hightlight and hit the delete key. takes like 30sec to ask if i want to delete it.

**Mastershakes** · February 1st, 2005

Run an SFC /scannow on your Windows install. See if it finds/fixes anything. I've seen this before, trying to dig up the solution.

Also check in taskmanager to see if there are any unusual processes spiking when you do a drag and drop, or shift/delete - if the process is explorer.exe that maxes out the CPU usage - the SFC may fix it.

Have you defragged lately? With a third party defrag like Diskeeper?

IDLE · February 1st, 2005

Originally Posted by Mastershakes

Run an SFC /scannow on your Windows install. See if it finds/fixes anything. I've seen this before, trying to dig up the solution.

Also check in taskmanager to see if there are any unusual processes spiking when you do a drag and drop, or shift/delete - if the process is explorer.exe that maxes out the CPU usage - the SFC may fix it.

Have you defragged lately? With a third party defrag like Diskeeper?

SFC? ive done a defrag and a anit-virus and spyware scans. found nothing.

**zeke_mo** · February 1st, 2005

Are you drag/dropping from two different hard drives? Or is it the same drive. I agree with Mastershakes, try defraging and doing a disk clean up. Do you do any spyware scans? Anti-virus running?

EDIT: Whoops you posted before I could :P

**Mastershakes** · February 1st, 2005

SFC = System File Checker. - whenever these really basic Windows functions go wonky on me - I run it. It's part of Windows, what it does I believe is a checksum on all the Windows System Files. If it finds some that have been modified, it will restore the default from the I386 folder, or prompt you to put in your Windows CD

Run that business, let us know what goes down.

IDLE · February 1st, 2005

i did a drag and drop to a folder on the same partition (text document) the explorer and cpu percentage did not change. its like it gets stuck for 30 seconds. this happnes with deleting a file as well.

**zeke_mo** · February 1st, 2005

Originally Posted by IDLE

i did a drag and drop to a folder on the same partition (text document) the explorer and cpu percentage did not change. its like it gets stuck for 30 seconds. this happnes with deleting a file as well.

Download This and run it, if you can upload a screenshot, or just post all the results

**lancer** · February 1st, 2005

i had this very same problem, but with windows 98, even after i formatted and reinstalled it was still the same after about 2-3 days. For me i found out it was the HD. and it sounds like that could be the culprit as well.

**Mastershakes** · February 1st, 2005

Are you on SP2 IDLE?
Also, what is your video rig?

That tool looks real neat Zeke.

IDLE · February 1st, 2005

ive got 98oo pro 256mb catalyst 4.12

**Mainframeguy** · February 1st, 2005

Originally Posted by zeke_mo

Download This and run it, if you can upload a screenshot, or just post all the results

what he said - HDtach is teh businesss IF it is the drive.... sounds to me like it could be a spin up problem, but also software related.... what happens when you open a file like an MP3 with a player? Any lag there? If it is the HD there should be lag in these sorts of areas too....

[EDIT] seen pic now - your drive is not the fastest but it looks unlikely that is the issue to me.... is it nearing 100% or in fact anywhere above 75% full? Are the files large? and there was something else - but I forgot it while typing! Doh! [/EDIT]

IDLE · February 1st, 2005

opening up files i have no problem with.just moving or deleting them. im freakin lost with this. lol. i dont have any trouble playing any games what so ever.

**zeke_mo** · February 1st, 2005

Originally Posted by IDLE

ive got 98oo pro 256mb catalyst 4.12

The screen shows 19.9 MB/s Sounds like you need a new hard drive :P

tzepp@cox.net · February 1st, 2005

Originally Posted by IDLE

also seems to take forever to delete. if you hightlight and hit the delete key. takes like 30sec to ask if i want to delete it.

I have that problem too. Found that if I turn my anti-virus off I can drag/drop and delete with no problem

**Mastershakes** · February 1st, 2005

tzepp - good point.

IDLE try disabling real time protection for your anti-v and see if it changes anything.
It's looking more and more like an HD problem. Nice work fellas.

**GoNz0** · February 1st, 2005

i would run msconfig and disable most of your start up items, and none windows services. if it works fast after that then its time to re-enable everything 1 by 1 untill the problem returns. then you will know what is causing it if its software related.

IDLE · February 1st, 2005

found this in the event viewer

im screwed.

**GoNz0** · February 1st, 2005

time to backup b4 it blows

February 1st, 2005	Top \| #1
IDLE OSNN Senior Addict Joined: February 2004 Posts: 375 Reputation: 80 Power: 104	weird issue with XP pro when ever i drag and drop a file, no matter the extenson, the pc seems to lock up or pause. doesnt matter if im doing this to a different partition or with in the a partition. only way for me to move a file is to copy it then go to the folder and select paste. any ideas?

February 1st, 2005	Top \| #2
ming OSNN Advanced Joined: June 2003 Location: UK Posts: 4,252 Reputation: 1160 Power: 162	Re: weird issue with XP pro not sure about that... i've always used right-click->copy/move. Curent system: Intel Quad Core 9450 \| 4GB RAM \| WD Raptor 36GB \| nVidia 8800GT 512mb

February 1st, 2005	Top \| #3
IDLE OSNN Senior Addict Joined: February 2004 Posts: 375 Reputation: 80 Power: 104	Re: weird issue with XP pro also seems to take forever to delete. if you hightlight and hit the delete key. takes like 30sec to ask if i want to delete it.

February 1st, 2005	Top \| #4
Mastershakes OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: July 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,721 Reputation: 1040 Power: 124	Re: weird issue with XP pro Run an SFC /scannow on your Windows install. See if it finds/fixes anything. I've seen this before, trying to dig up the solution. Also check in taskmanager to see if there are any unusual processes spiking when you do a drag and drop, or shift/delete - if the process is explorer.exe that maxes out the CPU usage - the SFC may fix it. Have you defragged lately? With a third party defrag like Diskeeper?

February 1st, 2005	Top \| #5
IDLE OSNN Senior Addict Joined: February 2004 Posts: 375 Reputation: 80 Power: 104	Re: weird issue with XP pro Originally Posted by Mastershakes Run an SFC /scannow on your Windows install. See if it finds/fixes anything. I've seen this before, trying to dig up the solution. Also check in taskmanager to see if there are any unusual processes spiking when you do a drag and drop, or shift/delete - if the process is explorer.exe that maxes out the CPU usage - the SFC may fix it. Have you defragged lately? With a third party defrag like Diskeeper? SFC? ive done a defrag and a anit-virus and spyware scans. found nothing.

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February 1st, 2005	Top \| #6
zeke_mo (value not set) Joined: August 2004 Location: Placerville, CA Posts: 1,965 Reputation: 1290 Power: 126	Re: weird issue with XP pro Are you drag/dropping from two different hard drives? Or is it the same drive. I agree with Mastershakes, try defraging and doing a disk clean up. Do you do any spyware scans? Anti-virus running? EDIT: Whoops you posted before I could :P "My Mind is a swirling miasma of scintillating thoughts and turgid ideas" ~Sam Zeitgeist Money as Debt, educate yourself.

February 1st, 2005	Top \| #7
Mastershakes OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: July 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,721 Reputation: 1040 Power: 124	Re: weird issue with XP pro SFC = System File Checker. - whenever these really basic Windows functions go wonky on me - I run it. It's part of Windows, what it does I believe is a checksum on all the Windows System Files. If it finds some that have been modified, it will restore the default from the I386 folder, or prompt you to put in your Windows CD Run that business, let us know what goes down.

February 1st, 2005	Top \| #8
IDLE OSNN Senior Addict Joined: February 2004 Posts: 375 Reputation: 80 Power: 104	Re: weird issue with XP pro i did a drag and drop to a folder on the same partition (text document) the explorer and cpu percentage did not change. its like it gets stuck for 30 seconds. this happnes with deleting a file as well.

February 1st, 2005	Top \| #9
zeke_mo (value not set) Joined: August 2004 Location: Placerville, CA Posts: 1,965 Reputation: 1290 Power: 126	Re: weird issue with XP pro Originally Posted by IDLE i did a drag and drop to a folder on the same partition (text document) the explorer and cpu percentage did not change. its like it gets stuck for 30 seconds. this happnes with deleting a file as well. Download This and run it, if you can upload a screenshot, or just post all the results "My Mind is a swirling miasma of scintillating thoughts and turgid ideas" ~Sam Zeitgeist Money as Debt, educate yourself.

February 1st, 2005	Top \| #10
lancer There is no answer! Joined: October 2004 Location: FL, USA Posts: 3,087 Blog Entries: 3 Reputation: 1430 Power: 137	Re: weird issue with XP pro i had this very same problem, but with windows 98, even after i formatted and reinstalled it was still the same after about 2-3 days. For me i found out it was the HD. and it sounds like that could be the culprit as well. "The world has just got smaller now, but people have got further away."

February 1st, 2005	Top \| #11
Mastershakes OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: July 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,721 Reputation: 1040 Power: 124	Re: weird issue with XP pro Are you on SP2 IDLE? Also, what is your video rig? That tool looks real neat Zeke.

February 1st, 2005	Top \| #12
IDLE OSNN Senior Addict Joined: February 2004 Posts: 375 Reputation: 80 Power: 104	Re: weird issue with XP pro ive got 98oo pro 256mb catalyst 4.12 Attached Thumbnails

February 1st, 2005	Top \| #13
Mainframeguy Debiant by way of Ubuntu Joined: August 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,763 Blog Entries: 5 Reputation: 1390 Power: 169	Re: weird issue with XP pro Originally Posted by zeke_mo Download This and run it, if you can upload a screenshot, or just post all the results what he said - HDtach is teh businesss IF it is the drive.... sounds to me like it could be a spin up problem, but also software related.... what happens when you open a file like an MP3 with a player? Any lag there? If it is the HD there should be lag in these sorts of areas too.... [EDIT] seen pic now - your drive is not the fastest but it looks unlikely that is the issue to me.... is it nearing 100% or in fact anywhere above 75% full? Are the files large? and there was something else - but I forgot it while typing! Doh! [/EDIT] hosted by Lord

February 1st, 2005	Top \| #14
IDLE OSNN Senior Addict Joined: February 2004 Posts: 375 Reputation: 80 Power: 104	Re: weird issue with XP pro opening up files i have no problem with.just moving or deleting them. im freakin lost with this. lol. i dont have any trouble playing any games what so ever.

February 1st, 2005	Top \| #15
zeke_mo (value not set) Joined: August 2004 Location: Placerville, CA Posts: 1,965 Reputation: 1290 Power: 126	Re: weird issue with XP pro Originally Posted by IDLE ive got 98oo pro 256mb catalyst 4.12 The screen shows 19.9 MB/s Sounds like you need a new hard drive :P "My Mind is a swirling miasma of scintillating thoughts and turgid ideas" ~Sam Zeitgeist Money as Debt, educate yourself.

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tzepp@cox.net high Joined: August 2004 Location: Sandy Eggo Posts: 137 Reputation: 40 Power: 96	Re: weird issue with XP pro Originally Posted by IDLE also seems to take forever to delete. if you hightlight and hit the delete key. takes like 30sec to ask if i want to delete it. I have that problem too. Found that if I turn my anti-virus off I can drag/drop and delete with no problem

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Mastershakes OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: July 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,721 Reputation: 1040 Power: 124	Re: weird issue with XP pro tzepp - good point. IDLE try disabling real time protection for your anti-v and see if it changes anything. It's looking more and more like an HD problem. Nice work fellas.

February 1st, 2005	Top \| #18
GoNz0 NTFS Stoner Joined: March 2002 Location: the year 2525 Posts: 2,781 Reputation: 350 Power: 155	Re: weird issue with XP pro i would run msconfig and disable most of your start up items, and none windows services. if it works fast after that then its time to re-enable everything 1 by 1 untill the problem returns. then you will know what is causing it if its software related.

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IDLE OSNN Senior Addict Joined: February 2004 Posts: 375 Reputation: 80 Power: 104	Re: weird issue with XP pro found this in the event viewer im screwed. Attached Thumbnails

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GoNz0 NTFS Stoner Joined: March 2002 Location: the year 2525 Posts: 2,781 Reputation: 350 Power: 155	Re: weird issue with XP pro time to backup b4 it blows