Sharing over a network, with Password Protection

pachelbel101 · December 28th, 2004

Morning everyone. I sure hope someone can help me, because I've been at this for hours and hours with no success!

I am a college student living in a dorm room, and my workgroup contains all the computers in my residence hall (around 150 computers). What I would like to do is network 2 computers together within my residence hall (mine and someone else's) without all the other people in my building having access to our computers. When I try clicking on other students' computers in the workgroup, it asks for a username and password - this would be just perfect. How can I require a username and password, to access our two computers?

A bit of background: both of our computers are running XP Pro, and I don't log into windows when I boot up my computer (I was thinking that perhaps having to log in to my windows with a password would fix my problem, but I don't know).

By the way, I normally think of myself as rather well-versed in computer lingo, but it would appear that everyone here is a networking pro, and they say all kinds of things that I don't understand. So, in your response, could you be rather specific (ex. step by step instructions, easy to understand language, etc). Thank you very much for your help.

**NetRyder** · December 28th, 2004

Welcome to OSNN, pachelbel101

I would have outlined the process for you, but it's getting late, and a quick Google search turned up this step-by-step tutorial:
http://resnet.ups.edu/shares.shtml

Go through it, and if you have any questions or problems, let us know and we'll help you out.

pachelbel101 · December 28th, 2004

Thanks for replying NetRyder. However, that does not seem to do the trick. That seems to not even show my computer to those that I haven't listed in the permissions (which might be alright), but it does not work. Whatever permissions I put in, that person still doesn't have access (I just selected the Computer name of the computer I want to allow access for, and the entity on that computer - I tried the username of the person, and then just Users, for anyone on that computer).

In any event, this seems to not work, and it also does not do what I want it to do - what I want is for anyone to be able to see me on the network, but to get access to shared files, you are prompted with a username and password dialog. That's what I need, and I have seen other computers on my network with this setup (they, however, seem to be oblivious to this, not knowing how they got that - so they are of no help!). If anyone knows how to require a username and password from others on your network, rather than specifically set what computer can connect to yours, I would very much appreciate hearing your input. Thanks a bunch!

**Admiral Michael** · December 28th, 2004

Add his username and pass that he uses onto his computer onto yours, then use Authenticated User groups on the shares only. Do the same on his comouter with your username and password.

pachelbel101 · December 29th, 2004

Thanks Michael. How would I go about doing that? I thought I knew how to do what you're talking about, however as far as I can tell, with the method I was thinking of, there is no way to set a password value, so it must be a different way. Would you mind enlightening me on how I would go about executing your suggestion? Thanks.

XPos · December 29th, 2004

Ok, you've enable file sharing by following those instructions but you haven't specified what you want to share, correct?

Open Windows Explorer (Start button --> Accessories --> Windows Explorer)

It should be displaying everything you have on your computer. From here you can specify what exactly you wish to share with everyone with permission. XP has a shared folder already created for you at the bottom of the list. I usually ignore this or turn it off because I'm the only one using my computer. With the permissions that you've set up there should be a little hand cupping this folder. If there isn't then you need to Right click on the folder and select Properties. Click on the Sharing tab in the properties window. I can't remember verbatum of what is said, but it says something like "Just share...." or "Just enable sharing for this folder...." something like that. Make sure you select the check box that tells what you are sharing this folder as. You can even change the name of it if you want to.

**Admiral Michael** · December 29th, 2004

Originally Posted by pachelbel101

Thanks Michael. How would I go about doing that? I thought I knew how to do what you're talking about, however as far as I can tell, with the method I was thinking of, there is no way to set a password value, so it must be a different way. Would you mind enlightening me on how I would go about executing your suggestion? Thanks.

Goto the User Accounts in Control Panel, add your friends Username and have him use enter his password. You can make him a limited user if you dont want his as an admin. Do the same on his with you username and pass. Now when you try to connect to each other it wont ask for a username and pass BUT if someone else tries it will. You also have to disable simple file sharing to get the permissions, which I think you already did.

pachelbel101 · December 30th, 2004

Interesting Michael. So if I have a username and password set to log into windows (rather than Windows just automatically coming up on startup) then when someone on the network tries to connect to my computer, it will ask them for that username and password, but if there is no Windows login username and password, and windows just pops right up, then a network user connecting to my computer won't get a username and password prompt, and will just be granted access to my computer? If that's the case, then that's exactly what I want, and not at all very difficult.

ApparitionX · December 30th, 2004

just a quick thought...might not help at all, but what about just changing the workgroup name of the 2 computers you wish to network together?...meaning, that if the common workgroup for the dorm is "MSHOME", and u change your network name to privatenetwork (it can be whatever u want) then none of the computers on MSHOME will see your cpu at all because they aren't looking for that workgroup.

**Admiral Michael** · December 30th, 2004

Originally Posted by pachelbel101

Interesting Michael. So if I have a username and password set to log into windows (rather than Windows just automatically coming up on startup) then when someone on the network tries to connect to my computer, it will ask them for that username and password, but if there is no Windows login username and password, and windows just pops right up, then a network user connecting to my computer won't get a username and password prompt, and will just be granted access to my computer? If that's the case, then that's exactly what I want, and not at all very difficult.

Basically when you friend tries to connect it will sned his username amd pass that he's logged into with on his computer, and since you have created the same user on you machine it will allow access. If someone else tries to connect with a different account thats not on you system it will prompt fpr a username and password (they would have to either enter your account of his) to gain access.

Originally Posted by ApparitionX

just a quick thought...might not help at all, but what about just changing the workgroup name of the 2 computers you wish to network together?...meaning, that if the common workgroup for the dorm is "MSHOME", and u change your network name to privatenetwork (it can be whatever u want) then none of the computers on MSHOME will see your cpu at all because they aren't looking for that workgroup.

I think XP Pro can browse other workgroups other then the one set, setting up the security is the best way to block unwanted visitors.

ozzy_james · December 31st, 2004

I know its not a particularly high level of security but it is possible to set passwords on individual shared folders, it should be in the sharing and security tab. perhaps not a total solution but could be used as a temp fix until you get permissions working.

And you can very easily view other workgroups on a network I think its the view entire network link that will bring this up.

pachelbel101 · December 31st, 2004

Thanks a bunch everyone. I think Michael's last post is just what I was looking for!

ApparitionX · December 31st, 2004

Originally Posted by Admiral Michael

I think XP Pro can browse other workgroups other then the one set

wouldn't they have to know the name of the workgroup?

Originally Posted by Admiral Michael

setting up the security is the best way to block unwanted visitors.

Absolutely, 100% agreed, I was just tryin to think of a quick/easy alternative route to take.

Originally Posted by pachelbel101

I think Michael's last post is just what I was looking for!

**Admiral Michael** · January 1st, 2005

Originally Posted by ApparitionX

wouldn't they have to know the name of the workgroup?

No unfortunately, like ozzy_james mentioned, and it is true:

Originally Posted by ozzy_james

And you can very easily view other workgroups on a network I think its the view entire network link that will bring this up.

ApparitionX · January 1st, 2005

aaah...well, it was a nice thought anyway.

December 28th, 2004	Top \| #1
pachelbel101 OSNN Junior Addict Joined: December 2004 Posts: 5 Reputation: 0 Power: 91	Sharing over a network, with Password Protection Morning everyone. I sure hope someone can help me, because I've been at this for hours and hours with no success! I am a college student living in a dorm room, and my workgroup contains all the computers in my residence hall (around 150 computers). What I would like to do is network 2 computers together within my residence hall (mine and someone else's) without all the other people in my building having access to our computers. When I try clicking on other students' computers in the workgroup, it asks for a username and password - this would be just perfect. How can I require a username and password, to access our two computers? A bit of background: both of our computers are running XP Pro, and I don't log into windows when I boot up my computer (I was thinking that perhaps having to log in to my windows with a password would fix my problem, but I don't know). By the way, I normally think of myself as rather well-versed in computer lingo, but it would appear that everyone here is a networking pro, and they say all kinds of things that I don't understand. So, in your response, could you be rather specific (ex. step by step instructions, easy to understand language, etc). Thank you very much for your help.

December 28th, 2004	Top \| #2
NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 298	Welcome to OSNN, pachelbel101 I would have outlined the process for you, but it's getting late, and a quick Google search turned up this step-by-step tutorial: http://resnet.ups.edu/shares.shtml Go through it, and if you have any questions or problems, let us know and we'll help you out. http://kunal.kundaje.net

December 28th, 2004	Top \| #4
Admiral Michael Michaelsoft Systems CEO Joined: February 2003 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Canada Earth Posts: 3,125 Blog Entries: 8 Reputation: 2216 Power: 166	Add his username and pass that he uses onto his computer onto yours, then use Authenticated User groups on the shares only. Do the same on his comouter with your username and password. Apple MacBook Pro Intel Quad-Core i7 2GHz \| Corsair 8GB 1333MHz DDR3 Memory \| WD 750GB 7200RPM Black Edition SATA Hard Drive \| Intel HD Graphics 3000/AMD Radeon HD 6490M 256MB GDDR5 \| 15.4" LED backlit glossy screen @ 1440x900 \| Dual Band Airport Wireless/Bluetooth \| Gigabit Ethernet \| Thunderbolt I/O \| Built-in Webcam \| Backlit Keyboard \| Firewire 800 \| DVDRW \| OS X Lion 10.7.1 My Site \| My DVD Collection \| Your Chevrolet Guy

December 29th, 2004	Top \| #7
Admiral Michael Michaelsoft Systems CEO Joined: February 2003 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Canada Earth Posts: 3,125 Blog Entries: 8 Reputation: 2216 Power: 166	Originally Posted by pachelbel101 Thanks Michael. How would I go about doing that? I thought I knew how to do what you're talking about, however as far as I can tell, with the method I was thinking of, there is no way to set a password value, so it must be a different way. Would you mind enlightening me on how I would go about executing your suggestion? Thanks. Goto the User Accounts in Control Panel, add your friends Username and have him use enter his password. You can make him a limited user if you dont want his as an admin. Do the same on his with you username and pass. Now when you try to connect to each other it wont ask for a username and pass BUT if someone else tries it will. You also have to disable simple file sharing to get the permissions, which I think you already did. Apple MacBook Pro Intel Quad-Core i7 2GHz \| Corsair 8GB 1333MHz DDR3 Memory \| WD 750GB 7200RPM Black Edition SATA Hard Drive \| Intel HD Graphics 3000/AMD Radeon HD 6490M 256MB GDDR5 \| 15.4" LED backlit glossy screen @ 1440x900 \| Dual Band Airport Wireless/Bluetooth \| Gigabit Ethernet \| Thunderbolt I/O \| Built-in Webcam \| Backlit Keyboard \| Firewire 800 \| DVDRW \| OS X Lion 10.7.1 My Site \| My DVD Collection \| Your Chevrolet Guy

December 30th, 2004	Top \| #10
Admiral Michael Michaelsoft Systems CEO Joined: February 2003 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Canada Earth Posts: 3,125 Blog Entries: 8 Reputation: 2216 Power: 166	Originally Posted by pachelbel101 Interesting Michael. So if I have a username and password set to log into windows (rather than Windows just automatically coming up on startup) then when someone on the network tries to connect to my computer, it will ask them for that username and password, but if there is no Windows login username and password, and windows just pops right up, then a network user connecting to my computer won't get a username and password prompt, and will just be granted access to my computer? If that's the case, then that's exactly what I want, and not at all very difficult. Basically when you friend tries to connect it will sned his username amd pass that he's logged into with on his computer, and since you have created the same user on you machine it will allow access. If someone else tries to connect with a different account thats not on you system it will prompt fpr a username and password (they would have to either enter your account of his) to gain access. Originally Posted by ApparitionX just a quick thought...might not help at all, but what about just changing the workgroup name of the 2 computers you wish to network together?...meaning, that if the common workgroup for the dorm is "MSHOME", and u change your network name to privatenetwork (it can be whatever u want) then none of the computers on MSHOME will see your cpu at all because they aren't looking for that workgroup. I think XP Pro can browse other workgroups other then the one set, setting up the security is the best way to block unwanted visitors. Apple MacBook Pro Intel Quad-Core i7 2GHz \| Corsair 8GB 1333MHz DDR3 Memory \| WD 750GB 7200RPM Black Edition SATA Hard Drive \| Intel HD Graphics 3000/AMD Radeon HD 6490M 256MB GDDR5 \| 15.4" LED backlit glossy screen @ 1440x900 \| Dual Band Airport Wireless/Bluetooth \| Gigabit Ethernet \| Thunderbolt I/O \| Built-in Webcam \| Backlit Keyboard \| Firewire 800 \| DVDRW \| OS X Lion 10.7.1 My Site \| My DVD Collection \| Your Chevrolet Guy

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December 28th, 2004	Top \| #3
pachelbel101 OSNN Junior Addict Joined: December 2004 Posts: 5 Reputation: 0 Power: 91	Thanks for replying NetRyder. However, that does not seem to do the trick. That seems to not even show my computer to those that I haven't listed in the permissions (which might be alright), but it does not work. Whatever permissions I put in, that person still doesn't have access (I just selected the Computer name of the computer I want to allow access for, and the entity on that computer - I tried the username of the person, and then just Users, for anyone on that computer). In any event, this seems to not work, and it also does not do what I want it to do - what I want is for anyone to be able to see me on the network, but to get access to shared files, you are prompted with a username and password dialog. That's what I need, and I have seen other computers on my network with this setup (they, however, seem to be oblivious to this, not knowing how they got that - so they are of no help!). If anyone knows how to require a username and password from others on your network, rather than specifically set what computer can connect to yours, I would very much appreciate hearing your input. Thanks a bunch!

December 29th, 2004	Top \| #5
pachelbel101 OSNN Junior Addict Joined: December 2004 Posts: 5 Reputation: 0 Power: 91	Thanks Michael. How would I go about doing that? I thought I knew how to do what you're talking about, however as far as I can tell, with the method I was thinking of, there is no way to set a password value, so it must be a different way. Would you mind enlightening me on how I would go about executing your suggestion? Thanks.

December 29th, 2004	Top \| #6
XPos OSNN Addict Joined: August 2002 Location: Kansas Posts: 88 Reputation: 20 Power: 120	Ok, you've enable file sharing by following those instructions but you haven't specified what you want to share, correct? Open Windows Explorer (Start button --> Accessories --> Windows Explorer) It should be displaying everything you have on your computer. From here you can specify what exactly you wish to share with everyone with permission. XP has a shared folder already created for you at the bottom of the list. I usually ignore this or turn it off because I'm the only one using my computer. With the permissions that you've set up there should be a little hand cupping this folder. If there isn't then you need to Right click on the folder and select Properties. Click on the Sharing tab in the properties window. I can't remember verbatum of what is said, but it says something like "Just share...." or "Just enable sharing for this folder...." something like that. Make sure you select the check box that tells what you are sharing this folder as. You can even change the name of it if you want to.

December 30th, 2004	Top \| #8
pachelbel101 OSNN Junior Addict Joined: December 2004 Posts: 5 Reputation: 0 Power: 91	Interesting Michael. So if I have a username and password set to log into windows (rather than Windows just automatically coming up on startup) then when someone on the network tries to connect to my computer, it will ask them for that username and password, but if there is no Windows login username and password, and windows just pops right up, then a network user connecting to my computer won't get a username and password prompt, and will just be granted access to my computer? If that's the case, then that's exactly what I want, and not at all very difficult.

December 30th, 2004	Top \| #9
ApparitionX Sick of it all. Joined: April 2004 Posts: 117 Reputation: 10 Power: 100	just a quick thought...might not help at all, but what about just changing the workgroup name of the 2 computers you wish to network together?...meaning, that if the common workgroup for the dorm is "MSHOME", and u change your network name to privatenetwork (it can be whatever u want) then none of the computers on MSHOME will see your cpu at all because they aren't looking for that workgroup.

December 31st, 2004	Top \| #11
ozzy_james OSNN Junior Addict Joined: October 2004 Posts: 13 Reputation: 0 Power: 93	I know its not a particularly high level of security but it is possible to set passwords on individual shared folders, it should be in the sharing and security tab. perhaps not a total solution but could be used as a temp fix until you get permissions working. And you can very easily view other workgroups on a network I think its the view entire network link that will bring this up. AMD Athlon 2600XP Barton Abit AN7-S 2 Mobo 1Gb 3200 DDR 80Gb SATA Barracuda HD Sapphire 9600XT 256Mb NEC 3500 16x DVD RW

December 31st, 2004	Top \| #12
pachelbel101 OSNN Junior Addict Joined: December 2004 Posts: 5 Reputation: 0 Power: 91	Thanks a bunch everyone. I think Michael's last post is just what I was looking for!

December 31st, 2004	Top \| #13
ApparitionX Sick of it all. Joined: April 2004 Posts: 117 Reputation: 10 Power: 100	Originally Posted by Admiral Michael I think XP Pro can browse other workgroups other then the one set wouldn't they have to know the name of the workgroup? Originally Posted by Admiral Michael setting up the security is the best way to block unwanted visitors. Absolutely, 100% agreed, I was just tryin to think of a quick/easy alternative route to take. Originally Posted by pachelbel101 I think Michael's last post is just what I was looking for!

January 1st, 2005	Top \| #14
Admiral Michael Michaelsoft Systems CEO Joined: February 2003 Location: Hamilton, Ontario Canada Earth Posts: 3,125 Blog Entries: 8 Reputation: 2216 Power: 166	Originally Posted by ApparitionX wouldn't they have to know the name of the workgroup? No unfortunately, like ozzy_james mentioned, and it is true: Originally Posted by ozzy_james And you can very easily view other workgroups on a network I think its the view entire network link that will bring this up. Apple MacBook Pro Intel Quad-Core i7 2GHz \| Corsair 8GB 1333MHz DDR3 Memory \| WD 750GB 7200RPM Black Edition SATA Hard Drive \| Intel HD Graphics 3000/AMD Radeon HD 6490M 256MB GDDR5 \| 15.4" LED backlit glossy screen @ 1440x900 \| Dual Band Airport Wireless/Bluetooth \| Gigabit Ethernet \| Thunderbolt I/O \| Built-in Webcam \| Backlit Keyboard \| Firewire 800 \| DVDRW \| OS X Lion 10.7.1 My Site \| My DVD Collection \| Your Chevrolet Guy

January 1st, 2005	Top \| #15
ApparitionX Sick of it all. Joined: April 2004 Posts: 117 Reputation: 10 Power: 100	aaah...well, it was a nice thought anyway.

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