[Review] MSN Desktop Search Beta - Page 3

**NetRyder** · December 20th, 2004

Originally Posted by perris

I changed the hot key to control+s for search

Doesn't that conflict with the Save shortcut in most applications?

**perris** · December 21st, 2004

I havn't used the save shortcut, I use the mouse :embarrassed:

**NetRyder** · December 21st, 2004

Ah, I see it takes precedence over application-specific shortcuts then.
I'm too used to keyboard shortcuts though. Could never give up Ctrl+S for save.

delta4s · December 21st, 2004

Originally Posted by NetRyder

I haven't locked it. The taskbar itself is locked, but the deskbar just floats there under all your other windows, so you can use the hotkey combination (Ctrl+Alt+M, by default) to make it float to the top when you need to search.

I'd like to be able to lock it into place though. Also, I tried to make the shortcut Winkey+S but it changes to Ctrl+Alt+S

**NetRyder** · December 21st, 2004

Originally Posted by delta4s

I'd like to be able to lock it into place though.

That's not a limitation of the deskbar itself. The thing is you can't lock any toolbar once you drag it onto your desktop.

Also, I tried to make the shortcut Winkey+S but it changes to Ctrl+Alt+S

Yeah, this is much like assigning shortcut keys to your shortcuts in the Start menu, for example. There's no way to use the Windows key. It has to be Ctrl, Alt, Shift or a combination of two or more of them.

delta4s · December 21st, 2004

yeah, true it's a limitation of any toolbar. Anyway, I'm really enjoying it, esply the 2 letter shortcuts.

**NetRyder** · December 23rd, 2004

Delta, seems like if you set the hotkey to Shift+S, you can use Winkey+S too!

delta4s · December 23rd, 2004

yes it works ! Great find

FoaMDarT · January 5th, 2005

I love this thread and thought I'd let you all know about a plugin I made for Maxthon (an IE browser shell for those that don't know). The plugin redirects searches from MSN Search to Google. Here's my thread about it on the Maxthon forums

Please take this for what it is (a tip for maxthon users, or someone who might want to give Maxthon a try). I'd prefer not to here anything about "why don't you use firefox" or "why don't you use Opera", thanks.

On a side note:

Originally Posted by NetRyder

Delta, seems like if you set the hotkey to Shift+S, you can use Winkey+S too!

How do you type a capital S in any of your programs then?

**NetRyder** · January 5th, 2005

Originally Posted by FoaMDarT

I love this thread and thought I'd let you all know about a plugin I made for Maxthon (an IE browser shell for those that don't know). The plugin redirects searches from MSN Search to Google. Here's my thread about it on the Maxthon forums

Please take this for what it is (a tip for maxthon users, or someone who might want to give Maxthon a try). I'd prefer not to here anything about "why don't you use firefox" or "why don't you use Opera", thanks.

Thanks FoaMDarT, and welcome to OSNN.

I've just been using "g <search term>" to do google searches from the deskbar, using an alias.

On a side note:
How do you type a capital S in any of your programs then?

Still works. Try it.

FoaMDarT · January 6th, 2005

Thanks for the welcome.

Yeah, I have an alias as well. I just wanted to come up with a way to not HAVE to use an alias.

**NetRyder** · February 1st, 2005

Heads up. New beta version released

# Eliminated the virus pop ups and increased performance (more below)
# Ability to index Outlook items when it isn’t your default email client
# Clear Deskbar text after performing searches
# Fixed a majority of reported Dr. Watson bugs
# Several bug fixes to improve overall stability & robustness

Read more: http://blogs.msdn.com/msnsearch/arch....aspx#FeedBack

**perris** · February 1st, 2005

NICE!

but I actually wish it wouldn't clear the search terms after a search, a la the run box...usually what I launch is the same, and it would be nice if at times it were in the box allready a la the run box

**NetRyder** · February 1st, 2005

From what I've seen, that feature (to clear the box) was requested by lots of people. I usually tend to launch Firefox multiple times a day with it too...and I just leave the "fx" text in there.
We must have been outnumbered.

**perris** · February 1st, 2005

I also see you just install over the old version to keep your settings...good

**NetRyder** · February 1st, 2005

Oh beautiful. There's a free ZIP IFilter (along with a few others) here:
http://www.citeknet.com/

(This means that MDS will be able to index files within ZIP archives, by the way)

**perris** · February 1st, 2005

nice, but the update pissed me off right away, tried to make msn my homepage and default search engine.

all is good though

**NetRyder** · February 1st, 2005

There was no checkbox during the setup this time? That's how it was in the initial version.

**perris** · February 1st, 2005

since it's an overlay installation and I trust the program, I didn't pay attention this time...my bad

**NetRyder** · February 1st, 2005

Just installed it. They still had the checkboxes, so I guess that's ok. What I didn't enjoy was the fact that I had to reboot after installation. I'm sure I had to do it the first time around too (I don't remember now), but I hope that's one step they can get rid of.

Being able to select particular Outlook/OE folders for indexing is a "hot" feature-request as per the Channel9 Wiki. I hope that's implemented in the next iteration.

December 20th, 2004	Top \| #41
NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 294	Originally Posted by perris I changed the hot key to control+s for search Doesn't that conflict with the Save shortcut in most applications? http://kunal.kundaje.net

December 21st, 2004	Top \| #42
perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,231 Reputation: 4333 Power: 288	I havn't used the save shortcut, I use the mouse :embarrassed: IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'VE DONE IT'S WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO

December 21st, 2004	Top \| #43
NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 294	Ah, I see it takes precedence over application-specific shortcuts then. I'm too used to keyboard shortcuts though. Could never give up Ctrl+S for save. http://kunal.kundaje.net

December 21st, 2004	Top \| #44
delta4s BLACK HAWK ALOFT Joined: April 2002 Location: Bangalore, India Posts: 340 Reputation: 220 Power: 126	Originally Posted by NetRyder I haven't locked it. The taskbar itself is locked, but the deskbar just floats there under all your other windows, so you can use the hotkey combination (Ctrl+Alt+M, by default) to make it float to the top when you need to search. I'd like to be able to lock it into place though. Also, I tried to make the shortcut Winkey+S but it changes to Ctrl+Alt+S "Everything that can be invented has been invented." ---Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, in 1899. If you liked my post, click the to the left.

December 21st, 2004	Top \| #45
NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 294	Originally Posted by delta4s I'd like to be able to lock it into place though. That's not a limitation of the deskbar itself. The thing is you can't lock any toolbar once you drag it onto your desktop. Also, I tried to make the shortcut Winkey+S but it changes to Ctrl+Alt+S Yeah, this is much like assigning shortcut keys to your shortcuts in the Start menu, for example. There's no way to use the Windows key. It has to be Ctrl, Alt, Shift or a combination of two or more of them. http://kunal.kundaje.net

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December 21st, 2004	Top \| #46
delta4s BLACK HAWK ALOFT Joined: April 2002 Location: Bangalore, India Posts: 340 Reputation: 220 Power: 126	yeah, true it's a limitation of any toolbar. Anyway, I'm really enjoying it, esply the 2 letter shortcuts. "Everything that can be invented has been invented." ---Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, in 1899. If you liked my post, click the to the left.

December 23rd, 2004	Top \| #47
NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 294	Delta, seems like if you set the hotkey to Shift+S, you can use Winkey+S too! http://kunal.kundaje.net

December 23rd, 2004	Top \| #48
delta4s BLACK HAWK ALOFT Joined: April 2002 Location: Bangalore, India Posts: 340 Reputation: 220 Power: 126	yes it works ! Great find "Everything that can be invented has been invented." ---Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, in 1899. If you liked my post, click the to the left.

January 5th, 2005	Top \| #49
FoaMDarT OSNN Junior Addict Joined: January 2005 Posts: 3 Reputation: 0 Power: 0	I love this thread and thought I'd let you all know about a plugin I made for Maxthon (an IE browser shell for those that don't know). The plugin redirects searches from MSN Search to Google. Here's my thread about it on the Maxthon forums Please take this for what it is (a tip for maxthon users, or someone who might want to give Maxthon a try). I'd prefer not to here anything about "why don't you use firefox" or "why don't you use Opera", thanks. On a side note: Originally Posted by NetRyder Delta, seems like if you set the hotkey to Shift+S, you can use Winkey+S too! How do you type a capital S in any of your programs then?

January 5th, 2005	Top \| #50
NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 294	Originally Posted by FoaMDarT I love this thread and thought I'd let you all know about a plugin I made for Maxthon (an IE browser shell for those that don't know). The plugin redirects searches from MSN Search to Google. Here's my thread about it on the Maxthon forums Please take this for what it is (a tip for maxthon users, or someone who might want to give Maxthon a try). I'd prefer not to here anything about "why don't you use firefox" or "why don't you use Opera", thanks. Thanks FoaMDarT, and welcome to OSNN. I've just been using "g <search term>" to do google searches from the deskbar, using an alias. On a side note: How do you type a capital S in any of your programs then? Still works. Try it. http://kunal.kundaje.net

January 6th, 2005	Top \| #51
FoaMDarT OSNN Junior Addict Joined: January 2005 Posts: 3 Reputation: 0 Power: 0	Thanks for the welcome. Yeah, I have an alias as well. I just wanted to come up with a way to not HAVE to use an alias.

February 1st, 2005	Top \| #52
NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 294	Re: [REVIEW] MSN Desktop Search Beta Heads up. New beta version released # Eliminated the virus pop ups and increased performance (more below) # Ability to index Outlook items when it isn’t your default email client # Clear Deskbar text after performing searches # Fixed a majority of reported Dr. Watson bugs # Several bug fixes to improve overall stability & robustness Read more: http://blogs.msdn.com/msnsearch/arch....aspx#FeedBack http://kunal.kundaje.net

February 1st, 2005	Top \| #53
perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,231 Reputation: 4333 Power: 288	Re: [REVIEW] MSN Desktop Search Beta NICE! but I actually wish it wouldn't clear the search terms after a search, a la the run box...usually what I launch is the same, and it would be nice if at times it were in the box allready a la the run box IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'VE DONE IT'S WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO

February 1st, 2005	Top \| #54
NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 294	Re: [REVIEW] MSN Desktop Search Beta From what I've seen, that feature (to clear the box) was requested by lots of people. I usually tend to launch Firefox multiple times a day with it too...and I just leave the "fx" text in there. We must have been outnumbered. http://kunal.kundaje.net

February 1st, 2005	Top \| #55
perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,231 Reputation: 4333 Power: 288	Re: [REVIEW] MSN Desktop Search Beta I also see you just install over the old version to keep your settings...good IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'VE DONE IT'S WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO

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perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,231 Reputation: 4333 Power: 288	Re: [REVIEW] MSN Desktop Search Beta nice, but the update pissed me off right away, tried to make msn my homepage and default search engine. all is good though IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'VE DONE IT'S WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO

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NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 294	Re: [Review] MSN Desktop Search Beta Just installed it. They still had the checkboxes, so I guess that's ok. What I didn't enjoy was the fact that I had to reboot after installation. I'm sure I had to do it the first time around too (I don't remember now), but I hope that's one step they can get rid of. Being able to select particular Outlook/OE folders for indexing is a "hot" feature-request as per the Channel9 Wiki. I hope that's implemented in the next iteration. http://kunal.kundaje.net