Standby or Hibernate

dreamworks · May 23rd, 2004

Guys ..

Anyone here can tell me the difference between standby and hibernate in windows system please?

If possible which should I be using since battery resource is really important to me?

My notebook is an AMD mobile processor, with 384MB RAM at this moment of time.

Please suggest alternatives. Thanks.

**~bk** · May 23rd, 2004

I think both are same. Doesn't matter if you leave your computer on stand by or hibernate it.

**~bk** · May 23rd, 2004

And I think you should be leaving your notebook on hibernate. I think that's the difference. It saves more power.

Vetrius · May 23rd, 2004

hibernate=shutdown... quick startup...
stand by, still on, just all the hardware shut down

Vetrius · May 23rd, 2004

hibernate would save more power, it just shoves all the ram data into a folder on the hard drive and shuts down, that way its like a 15 sec restart

**NetRyder** · May 23rd, 2004

Standby powers down all the components of the machine, except the RAM. Hibernate powers down all components including the RAM after saving it's contents to the hiberfil.sys file on the physical hard disk. So technically, standby uses very little power, whereas hibernate uses no power at all (it's equivalent to a complete shutdown).
Resuming from standby is almost instantaneous, whereas resuming from hibernate takes about 15-30 seconds since data has to be transfered back into RAM from the hard disk.

A common way of doing things is to use standby if you know you're going to be using the computer again after a short time...while you go for lunch or a coffee break, for example. Hibernate is best when you're not going to use the machine for extended periods of time...for example, just before you go to sleep. I almost never shutdown my laptop...it's either fully on, in standby mode, or hibernating.

**Geffy** · May 23rd, 2004

yep it is as NetRyder says, I did a helluva lot of research into hibernation a couple of years back when I was trying to be able to use it in WinME and so on. Standby puts your components into the S3 sleep state which is very close to powered off. In standby all your components are using the very least if not any power possible, and mainly only the RAM context is maintained. So if you have a power outage, or you pull the plug out the back, then its the same as if you were using the machine at the time. Hibernate is no power, zero power in the system, all the context of the ram has been stored on the hard drives, you can pull out the power plug, shove the machine in a box, move it across the country, plug it back in and it will pick up where you left off.

dreamworks · May 23rd, 2004

Thanks for the information. : )

Appreciate it very much. But how strong is Windows XP on hibernate? I think I have heard a lot of people complaining about window's hibernate feature as compared to that of mac and etc??

Just wandering ..

**NetRyder** · May 23rd, 2004

Most users who complain about standby/hibernate in Windows do so because they simply cannot get it to work. This usually happens due to incompatible hardware/drivers. Macs, on the other hand, use very specific hardware that's made to work with the OS, which is why "Sleep" works more often than not. Other than that, Standby in Windows and Sleep on the Mac are nearly identical.

Basically, if Standby/Hibernate works properly for you the first time, it shouldn't pose any kind of problems unless you introduce incompatible hardware or bad drivers later. As I said in my previous post, I almost never use the "Shut Down" option on my laptop. Standby when I go to class (without the laptop) and Hibernate when I go to sleep at night. Works flawlessly, and it's much nicer to just open the lid and have everything there the way you left it.
Never had a problem with either Standby or Hibernate on my desktop at home either...and that's an old PIII 550MHz custom-built system.

**Geffy** · May 23rd, 2004

There are two things which you need to have in order for Hibernate to work properly
1. Proper Graphics Drivers
2. WDM Audio Drivers (OS's like Win2k and XP use WDM by default, Win9x tended to use VXD which wouldnt work with hibernate)

and of course you need at least enough free disk space on your C Drive to store your RAM context so you need at least the same space as the amount of RAM you have. So 256MB RAM, you need at least 256MB free space, 1GB RAM you need at least 1GB free space

dreamworks · May 23rd, 2004

Cool .. I tried it couple of times and it works well for now. Hope it stays at it did because I really need this function.

Thanks for all your help guys.

Cheers

**Henyman** · May 23rd, 2004

i can never get dam hibernation to work on my lappy, standby works, but wont f00king resume when i lift lid

**SPeedY_B** · May 23rd, 2004

Why? What happens?

**Henyman** · May 23rd, 2004

when i click hibernate it goes to the blue xp screen that says "preparing to hibernae" .....................then sod all else??? no errors in logs etc

**Geffy** · May 24th, 2004

disable hibernate, defrag, reboot, enable hibernate

see if that fixes things

**gonaads** · May 24th, 2004

Originally Posted by Henyman

when i click hibernate it goes to the blue xp screen that says "preparing to hibernae" .....................then sod all else??? no errors in logs etc

Is there a Screen Saver running when ya hit the button?

Because I found this:

The Computer Cannot Enter Standby or Hibernate If a Direct3D-Based Screen Saver Is
Running (Q306676)

SYMPTOMS
If the 3D Flowerbox, 3D Flying Objects, 3D Pipes, 3D Text, or another Direct3D-based
screen saver is running in Windows XP, the computer may be unable to enter standby
or hibernation by using the timer in Power Management properties.

Windows XP supports the ability to turn off the monitor or hard disks by using the
Power Management timer with OpenGL (3D) screen savers running.

This issue is not video adapter-dependent.

RESOLUTION
The following file is available for download from the Microsoft Download Center:

http://support.microsoft.com/default...06676&&GSSNB=1

**gonaads** · May 24th, 2004

You may want to read this also:

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_standby.htm

And this:

NEW PROBLEMS INTRODUCED BY SERVICE PACK 1 (SP1)

Some new shutdown and powerdown issues have arisen in Windows XP SP1. Here are the ones I know about:

* HIBERNATION/STANDY PROBLEM WITH NERO SOFTWARE. If you have Nero CD-burning software (versions 5.0-5.5) installed on your computer, and invoke Standby or Hibernation modes more than once in a Windows session, the computer will hang on the “Preparing to...” screen and not go into Standby or Hibernation. SOLUTION: Uninstall Nero completely, and keep your eyes open for a new version of the program down the road. (Reference: MSKB 331506.)

**Henyman** · May 24th, 2004

i dont have nero, comp is fully defragged + has about 12GB free space. it's really anoying cus i have to shutdown, but to boot to desktop takes about 1 minute so it's not too bad

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~bk I <3 Adriana Joined: November 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,768 Reputation: 1230 Power: 154	I think both are same. Doesn't matter if you leave your computer on stand by or hibernate it. +bk.designs; + notebook + deviantART __________ // art is literacy of the heart <3

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~bk I <3 Adriana Joined: November 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,768 Reputation: 1230 Power: 154	And I think you should be leaving your notebook on hibernate. I think that's the difference. It saves more power. +bk.designs; + notebook + deviantART __________ // art is literacy of the heart <3

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NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 298	Standby powers down all the components of the machine, except the RAM. Hibernate powers down all components including the RAM after saving it's contents to the hiberfil.sys file on the physical hard disk. So technically, standby uses very little power, whereas hibernate uses no power at all (it's equivalent to a complete shutdown). Resuming from standby is almost instantaneous, whereas resuming from hibernate takes about 15-30 seconds since data has to be transfered back into RAM from the hard disk. A common way of doing things is to use standby if you know you're going to be using the computer again after a short time...while you go for lunch or a coffee break, for example. Hibernate is best when you're not going to use the machine for extended periods of time...for example, just before you go to sleep. I almost never shutdown my laptop...it's either fully on, in standby mode, or hibernating. http://kunal.kundaje.net

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Geffy OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: March 2002 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,805 Reputation: 1490 Power: 217	yep it is as NetRyder says, I did a helluva lot of research into hibernation a couple of years back when I was trying to be able to use it in WinME and so on. Standby puts your components into the S3 sleep state which is very close to powered off. In standby all your components are using the very least if not any power possible, and mainly only the RAM context is maintained. So if you have a power outage, or you pull the plug out the back, then its the same as if you were using the machine at the time. Hibernate is no power, zero power in the system, all the context of the ram has been stored on the hard drives, you can pull out the power plug, shove the machine in a box, move it across the country, plug it back in and it will pick up where you left off.  • blog • tumblog • lastfm • flickr • #rubyonrails • @twitter "I could be replaced with a very small shell script"

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dreamworks --== babyface ==-- Joined: January 2003 Posts: 355 Reputation: 20 Power: 117	Thanks for the information. : ) Appreciate it very much. But how strong is Windows XP on hibernate? I think I have heard a lot of people complaining about window's hibernate feature as compared to that of mac and etc?? Just wandering .. ---=== Surely I Will Be With You ... ===---

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NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 298	Most users who complain about standby/hibernate in Windows do so because they simply cannot get it to work. This usually happens due to incompatible hardware/drivers. Macs, on the other hand, use very specific hardware that's made to work with the OS, which is why "Sleep" works more often than not. Other than that, Standby in Windows and Sleep on the Mac are nearly identical. Basically, if Standby/Hibernate works properly for you the first time, it shouldn't pose any kind of problems unless you introduce incompatible hardware or bad drivers later. As I said in my previous post, I almost never use the "Shut Down" option on my laptop. Standby when I go to class (without the laptop) and Hibernate when I go to sleep at night. Works flawlessly, and it's much nicer to just open the lid and have everything there the way you left it. Never had a problem with either Standby or Hibernate on my desktop at home either...and that's an old PIII 550MHz custom-built system. http://kunal.kundaje.net

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Geffy OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: March 2002 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,805 Reputation: 1490 Power: 217	There are two things which you need to have in order for Hibernate to work properly 1. Proper Graphics Drivers 2. WDM Audio Drivers (OS's like Win2k and XP use WDM by default, Win9x tended to use VXD which wouldnt work with hibernate) and of course you need at least enough free disk space on your C Drive to store your RAM context so you need at least the same space as the amount of RAM you have. So 256MB RAM, you need at least 256MB free space, 1GB RAM you need at least 1GB free space  • blog • tumblog • lastfm • flickr • #rubyonrails • @twitter "I could be replaced with a very small shell script"

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dreamworks --== babyface ==-- Joined: January 2003 Posts: 355 Reputation: 20 Power: 117	Cool .. I tried it couple of times and it works well for now. Hope it stays at it did because I really need this function. Thanks for all your help guys. Cheers ---=== Surely I Will Be With You ... ===---

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Henyman Secret Goat Fetish Joined: June 2002 Location: Dorset, England Posts: More Than You Posts: 9,602 Reputation: 3548 Power: 253	i can never get dam hibernation to work on my lappy, standby works, but wont f00king resume when i lift lid http://Henyman.com

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Henyman Secret Goat Fetish Joined: June 2002 Location: Dorset, England Posts: More Than You Posts: 9,602 Reputation: 3548 Power: 253	when i click hibernate it goes to the blue xp screen that says "preparing to hibernae" .....................then sod all else??? no errors in logs etc http://Henyman.com

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Geffy OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: March 2002 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7,805 Reputation: 1490 Power: 217	disable hibernate, defrag, reboot, enable hibernate see if that fixes things  • blog • tumblog • lastfm • flickr • #rubyonrails • @twitter "I could be replaced with a very small shell script"

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gonaads Beware the G-Man Joined: March 2002 Location: XP-erience, NTFS, OSNN, Bay Area, California Posts: 18,474 Reputation: 4070 Power: 348	Originally Posted by Henyman when i click hibernate it goes to the blue xp screen that says "preparing to hibernae" .....................then sod all else??? no errors in logs etc Is there a Screen Saver running when ya hit the button? Because I found this: The Computer Cannot Enter Standby or Hibernate If a Direct3D-Based Screen Saver Is Running (Q306676) SYMPTOMS If the 3D Flowerbox, 3D Flying Objects, 3D Pipes, 3D Text, or another Direct3D-based screen saver is running in Windows XP, the computer may be unable to enter standby or hibernation by using the timer in Power Management properties. Windows XP supports the ability to turn off the monitor or hard disks by using the Power Management timer with OpenGL (3D) screen savers running. This issue is not video adapter-dependent. RESOLUTION The following file is available for download from the Microsoft Download Center: http://support.microsoft.com/default...06676&&GSSNB=1 *"I play violent video games, I could snap at any second."*

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gonaads Beware the G-Man Joined: March 2002 Location: XP-erience, NTFS, OSNN, Bay Area, California Posts: 18,474 Reputation: 4070 Power: 348	You may want to read this also: http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_standby.htm And this: NEW PROBLEMS INTRODUCED BY SERVICE PACK 1 (SP1) Some new shutdown and powerdown issues have arisen in Windows XP SP1. Here are the ones I know about: * HIBERNATION/STANDY PROBLEM WITH NERO SOFTWARE. If you have Nero CD-burning software (versions 5.0-5.5) installed on your computer, and invoke Standby or Hibernation modes more than once in a Windows session, the computer will hang on the “Preparing to...” screen and not go into Standby or Hibernation. SOLUTION: Uninstall Nero completely, and keep your eyes open for a new version of the program down the road. (Reference: MSKB 331506.) *"I play violent video games, I could snap at any second."*

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Henyman Secret Goat Fetish Joined: June 2002 Location: Dorset, England Posts: More Than You Posts: 9,602 Reputation: 3548 Power: 253	i dont have nero, comp is fully defragged + has about 12GB free space. it's really anoying cus i have to shutdown, but to boot to desktop takes about 1 minute so it's not too bad http://Henyman.com