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**perris** · January 14th, 2005

I love the app but I can't get the balloon tips to work with it.

:sad face:

chaos945 · January 15th, 2005

New Version: 1.13
* revised sizing formula, will adjust size as the time changes
* should work on ANY theme with text styles
* added "About" button in the configuration, you can check what version you are running there
* should be no more time lag issues, it will compensate the time after heavy resource usage
* revised all code

Perris: I don't know about that balloon bug, you'll have to see if it is fixed now.

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**perris** · January 15th, 2005

this one is really buggy on my box...it is constantly changing size

it also didn't resolve the balloon tip issue

sorry

chaos945 · January 15th, 2005

I'll do some more testing, but I think there could be a compatibility issue with something running on your system.

Is anyone else having problems?

I don't know if you are considering this to be the bugginess or not but every time explorer.exe refreshes itself the clock has to refresh; it appears as a quick blink.

Explorer will refresh itself when: you adjust the tray location, restarting explorer.exe, or when an item is added in the systemtray; the icons to the bottem right.

It is possible for me to make the clock refresh fast enough to make the blink almost invisible but the program resources will increase. A super fast version is posted below...

**outdated link removed**

**Hipster Doofus** · January 15th, 2005

The only time mine changes size is when the task bar has movement. Hide/unhide icons.

**Glaanieboy** · January 16th, 2005

Two issues:
1) When using the 12-hour clock, the seconds show immediately after the minutes (see screenie)
2) Same issue as perris, also when using the 12-hour clock, it's constantly changing size. It's also happening when I use the 24-hour clock with the date option (doesn't matter if I have seconds on or off)

These two issues don't happen when using the 24-hour clock (the one I prefer luckily

) I think the changing size is due to the adding of the am/pm and date (like Jan 16 as it is today)

**Hipster Doofus** · January 16th, 2005

screenie...........ahem!

**Glaanieboy** · January 16th, 2005

Woops

Sorry. See attached

Anyway, I saw this in the code:

Code:

   $med_siz = StringSplit($hour & ":" & $min & $sec & $ampm & $date, "abcdeghknopqrstuvxyz")
   $wide_siz = StringSplit($hour & ":" & $min & $sec & $ampm & $date, "0123456789mwABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ")

(taken from Func ResizBtn())
I ain't no code wizard with these .au3 files (I have no idea what language that is anyway), but shouldn't the lowercase 'mw' in the second line be in the first line? You also seem to be missing some other letters in the first line

edit: Forget it again! see attached again!

**Glaanieboy** · January 16th, 2005

Two more things:
1) Eventhough I am using the 24-hour clock with no secs and dates, the quick resizing (first bigger, then smaller, happens in a split second.) still happens at around every 30-60 secs.
2) I also find the blank space after the minutes a bit too big, can this be resolved? Merely an irritation, nothing big

**perris** · January 16th, 2005

I'd go back to the one before this...but I really love those balloon tips...I hope you can fiigure this one out

chaos945 · January 16th, 2005

This was one of my first projects and I’ve learned a lot since the original writing. I’m rewriting a good hunk of the code from scratch to try and resolve my early mistakes.

seconds show immediately after the minutes

Bug is verified, fixing.

constantly changing size

I was a bit too zealous with the sizing formula, that is why all the sizing is going on. Fixing.

shouldn't the lowercase 'mw' in the second line be in the first line

No, the letters ‘mw’ should not be in the first line. The $x_siz functions represent the width each character takes up, there are approximately 3 different sizes that every character will fit into properly, give or take a few pixels. ‘m’ and ‘w’ are wider than most of the other lowercase letters therefore don’t fit into the same size category.

Code:

These are all the characters I've defined:

$thin_siz = StringSplit($hour & ":" & $min & $sec & $ampm & $date, "fijl :-")
$med_siz = StringSplit($hour & ":" & $min & $sec & $ampm & $date, "abcdeghknopqrstuvxyz")
$wide_siz = StringSplit($hour & ":" & $min & $sec & $ampm & $date, "0123456789mwABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ")

This is the resizing formula.  It calculates the number of each sized characters, then based on the height of your current start button adjusts it accordingly.
$resize = ($thin_siz[0]-1) * ($Button1_Position[3] * 0.125) + ($med_siz[0]-1) * ($Button1_Position[3] * 0.3125) + ($wide_siz[0]-1) * ($Button1_Position[3] * 0.40625)

This is the line that is actually moving the start buton, $Button1_Position is an array holding information from the start button in it's original state. [0]=x position, [1]=y position, [2]=width, [3]=height
ControlMove("classname=Shell_TrayWnd", "", "Button1", $Button1_Position[0], $Button1_Position[1], ($Button1_Position[2] * 0.58 + $resize), $Button1_Position[3])

blank space after the minutes a bit too big

I’ll see what can be done.

**Glaanieboy** · January 16th, 2005

Wohoo

Thanks for taking a look

sharob · January 23rd, 2005

My computer died and I lost the Start Clock.

When is the next update due?

**Hipster Doofus** · January 23rd, 2005

This should be the latest release here>>>

http://www.startclock.osnn.net/files/StartClock.zip

sharob · January 23rd, 2005

Beautiful, thanks heaps

**perris** · June 25th, 2005

I still loose the ballon tips when I run this app

**Bman** · June 25th, 2005

Does this only work with classic theme and Windows XP theme?

**perris** · June 25th, 2005

I'm not using the classic theme...I think this is why the ballon tips stop working when I install the clock

too bad, I love this clocks

**Mainframeguy** · December 1st, 2005

This startclock does work and I did participate in the early development, but I have to say that for what it is I found it was just a teensy bit too intrusive on the system and I also prefer an analog to a digital time display.... But for those that always have 5% CPU free and would like to remove the clock from the taskbar system tray and have it on the button - this is the thing. Just every once in a blue moon it would seem to malfunction in some way - no doubt down to VB or some other app.

**Hipster Doofus** · December 1st, 2005

I've been running the clock now for several months & it has never played up on me. Maybe you have a bit of a conflict with something else that is running???

The only time I find it best to close it is when doing some video converting.

January 14th, 2005	Top \| #41
perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,229 Reputation: 4333 Power: 288	I love the app but I can't get the balloon tips to work with it. :sad face: IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'VE DONE IT'S WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO

January 15th, 2005	Top \| #43
perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,229 Reputation: 4333 Power: 288	this one is really buggy on my box...it is constantly changing size it also didn't resolve the balloon tip issue sorry IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'VE DONE IT'S WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO

January 15th, 2005	Top \| #45
Hipster Doofus Good grief Charlie Brown Joined: May 2002 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 5,920 Reputation: 560 Power: 183	The only time mine changes size is when the task bar has movement. Hide/unhide icons. Pentium 4 2.6ghz 400mhz @ 3.07ghz 472mhz / Gigabyte GA-8IHXP v2.1 / RAMBUS PC 800 768mb / Sapphire Radeon 9600XT 256mb / 2 x Maxtor 80gb ATA133 DiamondMax, RAID0 :: 1 x Western Digital 7200 40gb / Liteon DVD-RW Dual Layer SOHW-1633S @ 1653S / Liteon 52x24x52 CD-RW LTR-52246S / Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu Fan / Antec TruePower 480w / RD3XP Gladiator Rounded Cables

January 16th, 2005	Top \| #47
Hipster Doofus Good grief Charlie Brown Joined: May 2002 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 5,920 Reputation: 560 Power: 183	screenie...........ahem! Pentium 4 2.6ghz 400mhz @ 3.07ghz 472mhz / Gigabyte GA-8IHXP v2.1 / RAMBUS PC 800 768mb / Sapphire Radeon 9600XT 256mb / 2 x Maxtor 80gb ATA133 DiamondMax, RAID0 :: 1 x Western Digital 7200 40gb / Liteon DVD-RW Dual Layer SOHW-1633S @ 1653S / Liteon 52x24x52 CD-RW LTR-52246S / Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu Fan / Antec TruePower 480w / RD3XP Gladiator Rounded Cables

January 16th, 2005	Top \| #48
Glaanieboy OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: March 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,626 Reputation: 270 Power: 149	Woops Sorry. See attached Anyway, I saw this in the code: Code: $med_siz = StringSplit($hour & ":" & $min & $sec & $ampm & $date, "abcdeghknopqrstuvxyz") $wide_siz = StringSplit($hour & ":" & $min & $sec & $ampm & $date, "0123456789mwABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ") (taken from Func ResizBtn()) I ain't no code wizard with these .au3 files (I have no idea what language that is anyway), but shouldn't the lowercase 'mw' in the second line be in the first line? You also seem to be missing some other letters in the first line edit: Forget it again! see attached again! Attached Thumbnails

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January 15th, 2005	Top \| #42
chaos945 OSNN Senior Addict Joined: February 2003 Posts: 932 Reputation: 300 Power: 122	New Version: 1.13 * revised sizing formula, will adjust size as the time changes * should work on ANY theme with text styles * added "About" button in the configuration, you can check what version you are running there * should be no more time lag issues, it will compensate the time after heavy resource usage * revised all code Perris: I don't know about that balloon bug, you'll have to see if it is fixed now. Homepage Download

January 15th, 2005	Top \| #44
chaos945 OSNN Senior Addict Joined: February 2003 Posts: 932 Reputation: 300 Power: 122	I'll do some more testing, but I think there could be a compatibility issue with something running on your system. Is anyone else having problems? I don't know if you are considering this to be the bugginess or not but every time explorer.exe refreshes itself the clock has to refresh; it appears as a quick blink. Explorer will refresh itself when: you adjust the tray location, restarting explorer.exe, or when an item is added in the systemtray; the icons to the bottem right. It is possible for me to make the clock refresh fast enough to make the blink almost invisible but the program resources will increase. A super fast version is posted below... outdated link removed

January 16th, 2005	Top \| #46
Glaanieboy OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: March 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,626 Reputation: 270 Power: 149	Two issues: 1) When using the 12-hour clock, the seconds show immediately after the minutes (see screenie) 2) Same issue as perris, also when using the 12-hour clock, it's constantly changing size. It's also happening when I use the 24-hour clock with the date option (doesn't matter if I have seconds on or off) These two issues don't happen when using the 24-hour clock (the one I prefer luckily ) I think the changing size is due to the adding of the am/pm and date (like Jan 16 as it is today)

January 16th, 2005	Top \| #49
Glaanieboy OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: March 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,626 Reputation: 270 Power: 149	Two more things: 1) Eventhough I am using the 24-hour clock with no secs and dates, the quick resizing (first bigger, then smaller, happens in a split second.) still happens at around every 30-60 secs. 2) I also find the blank space after the minutes a bit too big, can this be resolved? Merely an irritation, nothing big

January 16th, 2005	Top \| #50
perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,229 Reputation: 4333 Power: 288	I'd go back to the one before this...but I really love those balloon tips...I hope you can fiigure this one out IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'VE DONE IT'S WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO

January 16th, 2005	Top \| #51
chaos945 OSNN Senior Addict Joined: February 2003 Posts: 932 Reputation: 300 Power: 122	This was one of my first projects and I’ve learned a lot since the original writing. I’m rewriting a good hunk of the code from scratch to try and resolve my early mistakes. seconds show immediately after the minutes Bug is verified, fixing. constantly changing size I was a bit too zealous with the sizing formula, that is why all the sizing is going on. Fixing. shouldn't the lowercase 'mw' in the second line be in the first line No, the letters ‘mw’ should not be in the first line. The $x_siz functions represent the width each character takes up, there are approximately 3 different sizes that every character will fit into properly, give or take a few pixels. ‘m’ and ‘w’ are wider than most of the other lowercase letters therefore don’t fit into the same size category. Code: These are all the characters I've defined: $thin_siz = StringSplit($hour & ":" & $min & $sec & $ampm & $date, "fijl :-") $med_siz = StringSplit($hour & ":" & $min & $sec & $ampm & $date, "abcdeghknopqrstuvxyz") $wide_siz = StringSplit($hour & ":" & $min & $sec & $ampm & $date, "0123456789mwABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ") This is the resizing formula. It calculates the number of each sized characters, then based on the height of your current start button adjusts it accordingly. $resize = ($thin_siz[0]-1) * ($Button1_Position[3] * 0.125) + ($med_siz[0]-1) * ($Button1_Position[3] * 0.3125) + ($wide_siz[0]-1) * ($Button1_Position[3] * 0.40625) This is the line that is actually moving the start buton, $Button1_Position is an array holding information from the start button in it's original state. [0]=x position, [1]=y position, [2]=width, [3]=height ControlMove("classname=Shell_TrayWnd", "", "Button1", $Button1_Position[0], $Button1_Position[1], ($Button1_Position[2] * 0.58 + $resize), $Button1_Position[3]) blank space after the minutes a bit too big I’ll see what can be done.

January 16th, 2005	Top \| #52
Glaanieboy OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: March 2002 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,626 Reputation: 270 Power: 149	Wohoo Thanks for taking a look

January 23rd, 2005	Top \| #53
sharob Interesting Joined: January 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 232 Reputation: 290 Power: 91	Re: StartClock My computer died and I lost the Start Clock. When is the next update due? Please use the Reputation System! If you thought a post was helpful or interesting, click the under the member's avatar to award positive reputation points and encourage useful posts on the forum.

January 23rd, 2005	Top \| #54
Hipster Doofus Good grief Charlie Brown Joined: May 2002 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 5,920 Reputation: 560 Power: 183	Re: StartClock This should be the latest release here>>> http://www.startclock.osnn.net/files/StartClock.zip Pentium 4 2.6ghz 400mhz @ 3.07ghz 472mhz / Gigabyte GA-8IHXP v2.1 / RAMBUS PC 800 768mb / Sapphire Radeon 9600XT 256mb / 2 x Maxtor 80gb ATA133 DiamondMax, RAID0 :: 1 x Western Digital 7200 40gb / Liteon DVD-RW Dual Layer SOHW-1633S @ 1653S / Liteon 52x24x52 CD-RW LTR-52246S / Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu Fan / Antec TruePower 480w / RD3XP Gladiator Rounded Cables

January 23rd, 2005	Top \| #55
sharob Interesting Joined: January 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 232 Reputation: 290 Power: 91	Re: StartClock Beautiful, thanks heaps Please use the Reputation System! If you thought a post was helpful or interesting, click the under the member's avatar to award positive reputation points and encourage useful posts on the forum.

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