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**Hipster Doofus** · December 17th, 2004

Might have found a bug. This has only happened since upgrading startclock.

When playing full screen games the clock when coming back to windows is wrong.

Started playing half life 1 at 16.46. Getting back into windows it was 16.16 then jumped to 16.37. Tha actual time was around 17.35.

I was going to turn the clock off then on again but hit the wrong button.

Had to reboot instead.

chaos945 · December 17th, 2004

Hmm, it could be a bug with the new memory usage.

The way the clock mechanism is setup is to save memory. It requests information using functions as little as possilbe them extrapolates the correct time. When resources are low the internal clock gets thrown out of wack, what should take 1 second to calculate now has a delay, affecting the clock output.

I guess I'll have to get it to reference the actual time more often to fix it...

**Mainframeguy** · December 17th, 2004

I have also found some situations where StartClock will actually crash, but I think this is rather the VScript crashing than the StartClock - it exits and has to be restarted after displaying a script error dialog. If I get it occur again (I think it can be reproduced but forget how) then I will take a screenie and give you recipe!

**Hipster Doofus** · December 31st, 2004

I think I killed it.

Had steam open downloading & first I noticed the seconds were not counting regularly. Then it stopped counting any time at all. Put it back to a basic 24 hour clock & it still stops running........as in keeping time.

It's even losing time just browsing around.

chaos945 · January 1st, 2005

So much for reducing resources!

Fixed version using old resource handling in a bit.

**Hipster Doofus** · January 10th, 2005

Seems to be OK now. Played HL2 for 45 minutes & had no issues. Seconds were ticking over nicely.

Good stuff.

chaos945 · January 11th, 2005

Oh good, thanks for testing that.

StartClock v1.1 fixes the time lag issues people were having.

**perris** · January 11th, 2005

how do I dissable the native clock?

this is VERY nice btw

one suggestion...mine has an out of symetry space at the end of the date...any way to make that smaller?

see my screeny

chaos945 · January 11th, 2005

The symmetry issue you see there is because I've had trouble figuring out a working size formula. It can be fixed per theme, but I'm thinking of doing away with the automatic sizing and having a slider control the width of the bar for the next version.

I'll upload a temporarily fixed version for classic sized themes in a few min.

You can disable the native clock by right-clicking the startbar going to properties and unchecking "Show the clock", you'll need to restart explorer.exe for the changes to take effect.

**perris** · January 11th, 2005

I still don't get the hover balloons on the forum though...I like those...how do I tell if I downloaded the latest version?

chaos945 · January 11th, 2005

The file version can be found by right-clicking StartClock.exe, clicking the "Version" tab and selecting "File Version" from the list. For old versions (before the new naming conventions), it has to be decompiled and the version is listed at the top of the source!

I'll add an about button, and the ability to update from the site in the next versions.

The missing balloon buttons are strange. I've only been able to duplicate it when system resources are low, or on slow systems. I'll add a fix and see if it helps in the temp version.

**perris** · January 11th, 2005

I've got plenty of memory and a pretty good processor that's not under pressure right now

chaos945 · January 11th, 2005

Here is a version to work with classic sized themes without the extra space on the edges. It should work on any theme about the same height and width's of classic, larger themes should stay with version 1.1

Let me know if the balloon issue still appears for you with this version.

Download StartClock v1.11 - for classic themes only

**perris** · January 11th, 2005

install over?

chaos945 · January 11th, 2005

Since I removed the installer, there really isn't much in the way of installing.

Just exit StartClock if it is currently running (CTRL + X), delete your old copy, then run the new version.

**perris** · January 11th, 2005

no differance chaos...it still has a margin on the right, and still no baloons

**perris** · January 11th, 2005

I'm gonna head off for the night...thanx for trying to work this out for me

chaos945 · January 11th, 2005

It does not sound like the new version is running, you should try erasing your cache and making sure the startclock.exe process does not exist before running the new version labeled "StartClock v1.11 - classic themes only.zip".

It is located in the beta section, the version on the mainpage is still the official release and not the tweaked classic version.

**perris** · January 11th, 2005

I know it looks like I'm classic theme, but I'm not, I'm custom

**Electronic Punk** · January 14th, 2005

when you release it final, make sure I get a changelog ;D

December 17th, 2004	Top \| #21
Hipster Doofus Good grief Charlie Brown Joined: May 2002 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 5,920 Reputation: 560 Power: 183	Might have found a bug. This has only happened since upgrading startclock. When playing full screen games the clock when coming back to windows is wrong. Started playing half life 1 at 16.46. Getting back into windows it was 16.16 then jumped to 16.37. Tha actual time was around 17.35. I was going to turn the clock off then on again but hit the wrong button. Had to reboot instead. Pentium 4 2.6ghz 400mhz @ 3.07ghz 472mhz / Gigabyte GA-8IHXP v2.1 / RAMBUS PC 800 768mb / Sapphire Radeon 9600XT 256mb / 2 x Maxtor 80gb ATA133 DiamondMax, RAID0 :: 1 x Western Digital 7200 40gb / Liteon DVD-RW Dual Layer SOHW-1633S @ 1653S / Liteon 52x24x52 CD-RW LTR-52246S / Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu Fan / Antec TruePower 480w / RD3XP Gladiator Rounded Cables

December 17th, 2004	Top \| #23
Mainframeguy Debiant by way of Ubuntu Joined: August 2002 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,763 Blog Entries: 5 Reputation: 1390 Power: 166	I have also found some situations where StartClock will actually crash, but I think this is rather the VScript crashing than the StartClock - it exits and has to be restarted after displaying a script error dialog. If I get it occur again (I think it can be reproduced but forget how) then I will take a screenie and give you recipe! hosted by Lord

December 31st, 2004	Top \| #24
Hipster Doofus Good grief Charlie Brown Joined: May 2002 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 5,920 Reputation: 560 Power: 183	I think I killed it. Had steam open downloading & first I noticed the seconds were not counting regularly. Then it stopped counting any time at all. Put it back to a basic 24 hour clock & it still stops running........as in keeping time. It's even losing time just browsing around. Pentium 4 2.6ghz 400mhz @ 3.07ghz 472mhz / Gigabyte GA-8IHXP v2.1 / RAMBUS PC 800 768mb / Sapphire Radeon 9600XT 256mb / 2 x Maxtor 80gb ATA133 DiamondMax, RAID0 :: 1 x Western Digital 7200 40gb / Liteon DVD-RW Dual Layer SOHW-1633S @ 1653S / Liteon 52x24x52 CD-RW LTR-52246S / Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu Fan / Antec TruePower 480w / RD3XP Gladiator Rounded Cables

January 10th, 2005	Top \| #26
Hipster Doofus Good grief Charlie Brown Joined: May 2002 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 5,920 Reputation: 560 Power: 183	Seems to be OK now. Played HL2 for 45 minutes & had no issues. Seconds were ticking over nicely. Good stuff. Pentium 4 2.6ghz 400mhz @ 3.07ghz 472mhz / Gigabyte GA-8IHXP v2.1 / RAMBUS PC 800 768mb / Sapphire Radeon 9600XT 256mb / 2 x Maxtor 80gb ATA133 DiamondMax, RAID0 :: 1 x Western Digital 7200 40gb / Liteon DVD-RW Dual Layer SOHW-1633S @ 1653S / Liteon 52x24x52 CD-RW LTR-52246S / Zalman CNPS7000A-Cu Fan / Antec TruePower 480w / RD3XP Gladiator Rounded Cables

January 11th, 2005	Top \| #28
perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,229 Reputation: 4333 Power: 288	how do I dissable the native clock? this is VERY nice btw one suggestion...mine has an out of symetry space at the end of the date...any way to make that smaller? see my screeny Attached Thumbnails IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'VE DONE IT'S WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO

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December 17th, 2004	Top \| #22
chaos945 OSNN Senior Addict Joined: February 2003 Posts: 932 Reputation: 300 Power: 122	Hmm, it could be a bug with the new memory usage. The way the clock mechanism is setup is to save memory. It requests information using functions as little as possilbe them extrapolates the correct time. When resources are low the internal clock gets thrown out of wack, what should take 1 second to calculate now has a delay, affecting the clock output. I guess I'll have to get it to reference the actual time more often to fix it...

January 1st, 2005	Top \| #25
chaos945 OSNN Senior Addict Joined: February 2003 Posts: 932 Reputation: 300 Power: 122	So much for reducing resources! Fixed version using old resource handling in a bit.

January 11th, 2005	Top \| #27
chaos945 OSNN Senior Addict Joined: February 2003 Posts: 932 Reputation: 300 Power: 122	Oh good, thanks for testing that. StartClock v1.1 fixes the time lag issues people were having.

January 11th, 2005	Top \| #29
chaos945 OSNN Senior Addict Joined: February 2003 Posts: 932 Reputation: 300 Power: 122	The symmetry issue you see there is because I've had trouble figuring out a working size formula. It can be fixed per theme, but I'm thinking of doing away with the automatic sizing and having a slider control the width of the bar for the next version. I'll upload a temporarily fixed version for classic sized themes in a few min. You can disable the native clock by right-clicking the startbar going to properties and unchecking "Show the clock", you'll need to restart explorer.exe for the changes to take effect.

January 11th, 2005	Top \| #30
perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,229 Reputation: 4333 Power: 288	I still don't get the hover balloons on the forum though...I like those...how do I tell if I downloaded the latest version? IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'VE DONE IT'S WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO

January 11th, 2005	Top \| #31
chaos945 OSNN Senior Addict Joined: February 2003 Posts: 932 Reputation: 300 Power: 122	The file version can be found by right-clicking StartClock.exe, clicking the "Version" tab and selecting "File Version" from the list. For old versions (before the new naming conventions), it has to be decompiled and the version is listed at the top of the source! I'll add an about button, and the ability to update from the site in the next versions. The missing balloon buttons are strange. I've only been able to duplicate it when system resources are low, or on slow systems. I'll add a fix and see if it helps in the temp version.

January 11th, 2005	Top \| #32
perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,229 Reputation: 4333 Power: 288	I've got plenty of memory and a pretty good processor that's not under pressure right now IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'VE DONE IT'S WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO

January 11th, 2005	Top \| #33
chaos945 OSNN Senior Addict Joined: February 2003 Posts: 932 Reputation: 300 Power: 122	Here is a version to work with classic sized themes without the extra space on the edges. It should work on any theme about the same height and width's of classic, larger themes should stay with version 1.1 Let me know if the balloon issue still appears for you with this version. Download StartClock v1.11 - for classic themes only

January 11th, 2005	Top \| #34
perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,229 Reputation: 4333 Power: 288	install over? IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'VE DONE IT'S WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO

January 11th, 2005	Top \| #35
chaos945 OSNN Senior Addict Joined: February 2003 Posts: 932 Reputation: 300 Power: 122	Since I removed the installer, there really isn't much in the way of installing. Just exit StartClock if it is currently running (CTRL + X), delete your old copy, then run the new version.

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January 11th, 2005	Top \| #36
perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,229 Reputation: 4333 Power: 288	no differance chaos...it still has a margin on the right, and still no baloons IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'VE DONE IT'S WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO

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perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,229 Reputation: 4333 Power: 288	I'm gonna head off for the night...thanx for trying to work this out for me IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'VE DONE IT'S WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO

January 11th, 2005	Top \| #38
chaos945 OSNN Senior Addict Joined: February 2003 Posts: 932 Reputation: 300 Power: 122	It does not sound like the new version is running, you should try erasing your cache and making sure the startclock.exe process does not exist before running the new version labeled "StartClock v1.11 - classic themes only.zip". It is located in the beta section, the version on the mainpage is still the official release and not the tweaked classic version.

January 11th, 2005	Top \| #39
perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,229 Reputation: 4333 Power: 288	I know it looks like I'm classic theme, but I'm not, I'm custom IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'VE DONE IT'S WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO

January 14th, 2005	Top \| #40
Electronic Punk The Last High Joined: December 2001 Location: London Posts: 18,506 Blog Entries: 51 Reputation: 3652 Power: 346	when you release it final, make sure I get a changelog ;D