Pop Goes the GMail (GMail POP3/SMTP converter)

tHe_cLeanER · May 31st, 2004

Pop Goes the Gmail

Well, posted this on Neowin but thought I would add it here as well to get a few more people to test (and break) it.

PGtGM allows you to use a standard email client such as outlook, or outlook express to send and receive email with your @Gmail account.

See the site http://jaybe.org/pgtgm/ for more stuff

Download:
Latest version

Couple of screenshots:

**SPeedY_B** · May 31st, 2004

Looks nice. Just need to find people with GMail accounts to try it

**NetRyder** · May 31st, 2004

Very nice.

This was also posted in another thread here: http://www.osnn.net/forum/showpost.p...6&postcount=35
I just signed up for my GMail account a few days ago, so I'm going to give this a spin.

**~bk** · May 31st, 2004

Are they still testing GMail or have they launched it?

**SPeedY_B** · May 31st, 2004

Still testing

**NetRyder** · May 31st, 2004

Originally Posted by ~bk

Are they still testing GMail or have they launched it?

Still testing.
EDIT: Redundant post by a few seconds

tHe_cLeanER · May 31st, 2004

You have any luck getting it working?

It works fine on my gmail account, but im not sure if other peoples settings/emails will cause it to screw up!

Originally Posted by NetRyder

Still testing.
EDIT: Redundant post by a few seconds

**NetRyder** · May 31st, 2004

Originally Posted by tHe_cLeanER

You have any luck getting it working?

It works fine on my gmail account, but im not sure if other peoples settings/emails will cause it to screw up!

Oh, actually my response was to ~bk's question.

I haven't tested the software yet...will do so tomorrow. It's past 2:30AM now, so I should probably go to sleep. I'll let you know how it goes.

**Howling Wolf** · May 31st, 2004

Originally Posted by NetRyder

Oh, actually my response was to ~bk's question.
I haven't tested the software yet...will do so tomorrow. It's past 2:30AM now, so I should probably go to sleep. I'll let you know how it goes.

How did you manage to open an account for real (a few days ago ?...) and not just sign up to receive an alert when the service is actually running ?

**SPeedY_B** · May 31st, 2004

Active users of blogger (owned by google) were offered accounts for testing, I gather this is because they see these people as active internet users.

**Johnny** · May 31st, 2004

I'm not sure if I trust the gmail. With it scanning your email to place the appropriate adds on your mail page is kinda swaying me away from it. With it scanning the messages it can put them on a central service and anyone can read them .. I don't like that ..

**NetRyder** · May 31st, 2004

Originally Posted by Johnny

I'm not sure if I trust the gmail. With it scanning your email to place the appropriate adds on your mail page is kinda swaying me away from it. With it scanning the messages it can put them on a central service and anyone can read them .. I don't like that ..

Doesn't bother me. It's not like a human is reading all my messages. It's clear that some sort of software just scans through the mail, looks for keywords, and displays AdSense words that are related to those keywords.
I much prefer that to those intrusive flashing banners, popups, or Flash ads that a lot of other free providers have. I guess I'm just not paranoid.

**SPeedY_B** · May 31st, 2004

Paranoia? Kill It !!!!

**Khayman** · May 31st, 2004

If you know about the service and what it does and still want to sign up then go ahead. Otherwise don't. Its that simple.
Personally i wouldn't like it cause all my scores of email about my drug cartel and pr0n ring might get picked up

**indyjones** · May 31st, 2004

Originally Posted by Khayman

If you know about the service and what it does and still want to sign up then go ahead. Otherwise don't. Its that simple.
Personally i wouldn't like it cause all my scores of email about my drug cartel and pr0n ring might get picked up

LOL

**Johnny** · June 1st, 2004

Originally Posted by Khayman

If you know about the service and what it does and still want to sign up then go ahead. Otherwise don't. Its that simple.
Personally i wouldn't like it cause all my scores of email about my drug cartel and pr0n ring might get picked up

This is what I am getting at, what if this turns out like Yahoo and Hotmail where you get 500 junk emails to 1 good one and they are a majority of porn and such. If the scanner picks that up it will show nothing but porn advertisements. The concept is nice and the thinking behindit is nice. But the scanning is just like a big peace of spyware. I also have a hard time believing that a machine will be the ony one reading the emails ..

Ketchupisyourfriend · June 1st, 2004

The software seems to work ok. I just wish I could get Trillian to check my Gmail account like it does for my Yahoo account. I guess this is the next best thing though.

onimkron · June 1st, 2004

Originally Posted by Johnny

This is what I am getting at, what if this turns out like Yahoo and Hotmail where you get 500 junk emails to 1 good one and they are a majority of porn and such. If the scanner picks that up it will show nothing but porn advertisements. The concept is nice and the thinking behindit is nice. But the scanning is just like a big peace of spyware. I also have a hard time believing that a machine will be the ony one reading the emails ..

Well, this is Google we're talking about. If it isn't JUST a computer reading the emails, then it'll most likely get a visit from court, based on infringing people's privacy. That'll seriously dent Google's business reputation, especially since it only quite recently floated. I doubt they'd want to gamble like that.

**NetRyder** · June 1st, 2004

Originally Posted by onimkron

Well, this is Google we're talking about. If it isn't JUST a computer reading the emails, then it'll most likely get a visit from court, based on infringing people's privacy. That'll seriously dent Google's business reputation, especially since it only quite recently floated. I doubt they'd want to gamble like that.

Exactly. And when the user base gets large enough (and it most definitely will), do you really think they're going to hire enough human beings to read through every mail that every user sends and receives?
Now putting all reality aside, even IF this is possible, what good would it do for Google's employees to actually read through your personal emails?

jwoolum · June 18th, 2004

What, no OS X version yet :-)

May 31st, 2004	Top \| #1
tHe_cLeanER OSNN Junior Addict Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4 Reputation: 0 Power: 0	Pop Goes the GMail (GMail POP3/SMTP converter) Pop Goes the Gmail Well, posted this on Neowin but thought I would add it here as well to get a few more people to test (and break) it. PGtGM allows you to use a standard email client such as outlook, or outlook express to send and receive email with your @Gmail account. See the site http://jaybe.org/pgtgm/ for more stuff Download: Latest version Couple of screenshots:

May 31st, 2004	Top \| #2
SPeedY_B I may actually be insane. Joined: March 2002 Location: Midlands, England Posts: 16,127 Reputation: 2877 Power: 283	Looks nice. Just need to find people with GMail accounts to try it
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May 31st, 2004	Top \| #3
NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,575 Reputation: 4260 Power: 270	Very nice. This was also posted in another thread here: http://www.osnn.net/forum/showpost.p...6&postcount=35 I just signed up for my GMail account a few days ago, so I'm going to give this a spin.
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~bk I <3 Adriana Joined: November 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 3,755 Reputation: 1230 Power: 123	Are they still testing GMail or have they launched it?
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SPeedY_B I may actually be insane. Joined: March 2002 Location: Midlands, England Posts: 16,127 Reputation: 2877 Power: 283	Still testing
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May 31st, 2004	Top \| #6
NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,575 Reputation: 4260 Power: 270	Originally Posted by ~bk Are they still testing GMail or have they launched it? Still testing. EDIT: Redundant post by a few seconds
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May 31st, 2004	Top \| #7
tHe_cLeanER OSNN Junior Addict Joined: May 2004 Posts: 4 Reputation: 0 Power: 0	You have any luck getting it working? It works fine on my gmail account, but im not sure if other peoples settings/emails will cause it to screw up! Originally Posted by NetRyder Still testing. EDIT: Redundant post by a few seconds

May 31st, 2004	Top \| #8
NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,575 Reputation: 4260 Power: 270	Originally Posted by tHe_cLeanER You have any luck getting it working? It works fine on my gmail account, but im not sure if other peoples settings/emails will cause it to screw up! Oh, actually my response was to ~bk's question. I haven't tested the software yet...will do so tomorrow. It's past 2:30AM now, so I should probably go to sleep. I'll let you know how it goes.
	http://kunal.kundaje.net

May 31st, 2004	Top \| #9
Howling Wolf We did not deserve this ! Joined: December 2001 Location: Amongst the Native Ones Posts: 1,259 Reputation: 330 Power: 112	Originally Posted by NetRyder Oh, actually my response was to ~bk's question. I haven't tested the software yet...will do so tomorrow. It's past 2:30AM now, so I should probably go to sleep. I'll let you know how it goes. How did you manage to open an account for real (a few days ago ?...) and not just sign up to receive an alert when the service is actually running ?
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May 31st, 2004	Top \| #10
SPeedY_B I may actually be insane. Joined: March 2002 Location: Midlands, England Posts: 16,127 Reputation: 2877 Power: 283	Active users of blogger (owned by google) were offered accounts for testing, I gather this is because they see these people as active internet users.
	1. SPeedYB.co.uk 2. CamPortal.co.uk 3. MacIRC.co.uk

May 31st, 2004	Top \| #11
Johnny Heart Breaker Joined: January 2004 Location: Happy Valley Posts: 4,190 Reputation: 1180 Power: 124	I'm not sure if I trust the gmail. With it scanning your email to place the appropriate adds on your mail page is kinda swaying me away from it. With it scanning the messages it can put them on a central service and anyone can read them .. I don't like that ..
	Heart Breaker ...

May 31st, 2004	Top \| #12
NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,575 Reputation: 4260 Power: 270	Originally Posted by Johnny I'm not sure if I trust the gmail. With it scanning your email to place the appropriate adds on your mail page is kinda swaying me away from it. With it scanning the messages it can put them on a central service and anyone can read them .. I don't like that .. Doesn't bother me. It's not like a human is reading all my messages. It's clear that some sort of software just scans through the mail, looks for keywords, and displays AdSense words that are related to those keywords. I much prefer that to those intrusive flashing banners, popups, or Flash ads that a lot of other free providers have. I guess I'm just not paranoid.
	http://kunal.kundaje.net

May 31st, 2004	Top \| #13
SPeedY_B I may actually be insane. Joined: March 2002 Location: Midlands, England Posts: 16,127 Reputation: 2877 Power: 283	Paranoia? Kill It !!!!
	1. SPeedYB.co.uk 2. CamPortal.co.uk 3. MacIRC.co.uk

May 31st, 2004	Top \| #14
Khayman I'm sorry Hal... Joined: January 2002 Location: England Posts: 5,695 Reputation: 1210 Power: 164	If you know about the service and what it does and still want to sign up then go ahead. Otherwise don't. Its that simple. Personally i wouldn't like it cause all my scores of email about my drug cartel and pr0n ring might get picked up
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May 31st, 2004	Top \| #15
indyjones OSNN.net Adventurer Joined: November 2002 Location: England Posts: 1,578 Reputation: 330 Power: 104	Originally Posted by Khayman If you know about the service and what it does and still want to sign up then go ahead. Otherwise don't. Its that simple. Personally i wouldn't like it cause all my scores of email about my drug cartel and pr0n ring might get picked up LOL
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Johnny Heart Breaker Joined: January 2004 Location: Happy Valley Posts: 4,190 Reputation: 1180 Power: 124	Originally Posted by Khayman If you know about the service and what it does and still want to sign up then go ahead. Otherwise don't. Its that simple. Personally i wouldn't like it cause all my scores of email about my drug cartel and pr0n ring might get picked up This is what I am getting at, what if this turns out like Yahoo and Hotmail where you get 500 junk emails to 1 good one and they are a majority of porn and such. If the scanner picks that up it will show nothing but porn advertisements. The concept is nice and the thinking behindit is nice. But the scanning is just like a big peace of spyware. I also have a hard time believing that a machine will be the ony one reading the emails ..
	Heart Breaker ...

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Ketchupisyourfriend OSNN Senior Addict Joined: December 2002 Posts: 266 Reputation: 0 Power: 87	The software seems to work ok. I just wish I could get Trillian to check my Gmail account like it does for my Yahoo account. I guess this is the next best thing though.

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onimkron OSNN Senior Addict Joined: January 2004 Posts: 427 Reputation: 160 Power: 77	Originally Posted by Johnny This is what I am getting at, what if this turns out like Yahoo and Hotmail where you get 500 junk emails to 1 good one and they are a majority of porn and such. If the scanner picks that up it will show nothing but porn advertisements. The concept is nice and the thinking behindit is nice. But the scanning is just like a big peace of spyware. I also have a hard time believing that a machine will be the ony one reading the emails .. Well, this is Google we're talking about. If it isn't JUST a computer reading the emails, then it'll most likely get a visit from court, based on infringing people's privacy. That'll seriously dent Google's business reputation, especially since it only quite recently floated. I doubt they'd want to gamble like that.

June 1st, 2004	Top \| #19
NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,575 Reputation: 4260 Power: 270	Originally Posted by onimkron Well, this is Google we're talking about. If it isn't JUST a computer reading the emails, then it'll most likely get a visit from court, based on infringing people's privacy. That'll seriously dent Google's business reputation, especially since it only quite recently floated. I doubt they'd want to gamble like that. Exactly. And when the user base gets large enough (and it most definitely will), do you really think they're going to hire enough human beings to read through every mail that every user sends and receives? Now putting all reality aside, even IF this is possible, what good would it do for Google's employees to actually read through your personal emails?
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jwoolum OSNN One Post Wonder Joined: June 2004 Posts: 1 Reputation: 0 Power: 0	Os X What, no OS X version yet :-)