Mozilla.org Discussion (Mozilla, FireBird, Thunderbird, etc) - Page 11

TheBlueRaja · November 21st, 2003

What happened to all the decent posts in this thread - like where to get the optimized version of Firebird, or how to get java to work.

This is all chat about themes and no info..

Boooo!

Bad moderators....

**SPeedY_B** · November 21st, 2003

Check the first post.

TheBlueRaja · November 21st, 2003

*whistle*

Just testing... Congratulations - you passed...

**SPeedY_B** · November 21st, 2003

Woohoo, do I get a prize?

TheBlueRaja · November 21st, 2003

Yeah,
You get to prolong my embarassment after I made a fooooool outa myself.

**perris** · November 22nd, 2003

ok...what's this barking sound when I hit the backslash key?

**SPeedY_B** · November 22nd, 2003

That's type ahead. Try typing random stuff, you should be beeped at 3 times before it stops.

Elroy Jetson · November 24th, 2003

anyone know if mozilla 1.6a is now based on firebird and thunderbird? or is it still the old (new) code?

**NetRyder** · November 24th, 2003

That depends on whether you're talking about the latest stable Firebird releases or the latest nightlies.
I know that the latest Firebird nightly is based on Mozilla 1.6b code, so it would be newer than the Mozilla 1.6a browser.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031123 Firebird/0.7+

Thunderbird, afaik, is a completely separate standalone email app. I don't think it's based on Mozilla Mail.

Elroy Jetson · November 24th, 2003

but wasn't the mozilla suite supposed to combine thunderbird and firebird into one app, because the mozilla code was so bloated?

**NetRyder** · November 24th, 2003

Originally posted by Elroy Jetson
but wasn't the mozilla suite supposed to combine thunderbird and firebird into one app, because the mozilla code was so bloated?

I heard something similar, but I haven't really installed the Mozilla suite since Firebird 0.5, so I'm really not sure what's included in these recent releases.
I'm sure there are people who still have Mozilla installed (I think SPeedY does), so I guess one of them should respond later and answer the Thunderbird question.

**gonaads** · November 24th, 2003

Originally posted by NetRyder
Thunderbird, afaik, is a completely separate standalone email app. I don't think it's based on Mozilla Mail.

Actually it is based off of the Mozilla Mail Client or the code.

[quote]
Thunderbird is a free, open-source and cross-platform mail client for most operating systems including, but not limited to, Windows, Linux and Macintosh. It is based on the Mozilla codebase.

[quote]
This software may work well enough to be relied upon as your primary messaging client as it is based off a stable Mozilla 1.5 architecture. However, Mozilla Thunderbird is still a preview release, and therefore several features may not be complete.

[quote]
Note, though, that Thunderbird is not just the standalone Mozilla mail client. The user interface in Thunderbird differs from Mozilla in a few ways, such as the customizable toolbars. Also, since Thunderbird is smaller than the whole Mozilla suite, it's also faster and easier to use. At least it's going to be soon...

They talk more in detail here----> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/index.html

**NetRyder** · November 24th, 2003

Ah, I stand corrected.

I should install the Mozilla suite once again to see what I've missed in it's development since I last had it.

**gonaads** · November 24th, 2003

I like the way Firebird is in comparison to the Mozila Suite. Mainly because you can DL Firebird as the basic fast browser and install it and DL the extensions and plugins and features you want to make it the way you want it. Not like Mozilla, that is all combined into one huge pakage. Don't get me wrong I still like Mozilla but the Bird is alot more managable. And with Thunderbird as the stand alone Mail Client I done have to have Mozilla load every time I want to read my e-mail (yeah, I know that the Mail Client opens on it's own, but it still loads alot of Mozilla). Less resources used is always better. Modular is NICE.

Kevin Ar18 · November 24th, 2003

The stretching bug has been fixed!!

The stretching bug that affected ntfs.org and others sites has been fixed. You can see here: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215857

You can get the latest nightly of Firebird here:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.o.../latest-trunk/

For windows users, get the FirebirdSetup.exe if you like the installer (I thnk this is the Windows installer; I'm not sure though)
or get the MozillaFirebird-win32.zip if you like the zip file method.

Mozilla Windows users can get the lastest nightly here:
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.o.../latest-trunk/

Elroy Jetson · November 24th, 2003

gonaads - exactly that is why somewhere in the back of my mind, I see to remember that mozilla admitted it was a very messy, big code, and that it wanted to combine the offsprings firebird and thunderbird as stand alone applications into one package. originally, I seem to remember, it was planned for the 1.5 release, but never really happened. SPeedY, you must knopw the answer!

**SPeedY_B** · November 24th, 2003

(The browser component of) Mozilla WILL turn into firebird, it WAS scheduled to happen for rv1.5, it never happened.
It's still going to happen, just not as soon as planned.

November 25th, 2003

NTFS Stretching Bug gone

download it, BUG still present!!!

**muzikool** · November 25th, 2003

Originally posted by renakuajo
download it, BUG still present!!!

You have to download and install the nightly linked to above... just in case that wasn't clear.

November 25th, 2003

download it, BUG still present!!!

it was clear

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SPeedY_B I may actually be insane. Joined: March 2002 Location: Midlands, England Posts: 15,800 Reputation: 2877 Power: 307	Woohoo, do I get a prize? 1. SPeedYB.co.uk 2. CamPortal.co.uk 3. MacIRC.co.uk

November 22nd, 2003	Top \| #206
perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,231 Reputation: 4333 Power: 288	ok...what's this barking sound when I hit the backslash key? IT'S NOT WHAT YOU'VE DONE IT'S WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO DO

November 22nd, 2003	Top \| #207
SPeedY_B I may actually be insane. Joined: March 2002 Location: Midlands, England Posts: 15,800 Reputation: 2877 Power: 307	That's type ahead. Try typing random stuff, you should be beeped at 3 times before it stops. 1. SPeedYB.co.uk 2. CamPortal.co.uk 3. MacIRC.co.uk

November 24th, 2003	Top \| #209
NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 294	That depends on whether you're talking about the latest stable Firebird releases or the latest nightlies. I know that the latest Firebird nightly is based on Mozilla 1.6b code, so it would be newer than the Mozilla 1.6a browser. Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031123 Firebird/0.7+ Thunderbird, afaik, is a completely separate standalone email app. I don't think it's based on Mozilla Mail. http://kunal.kundaje.net

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November 21st, 2003	Top \| #201
TheBlueRaja BR to Some Joined: April 2002 Location: Fawkirk! Posts: 766 Reputation: 269 Power: 129	What happened to all the decent posts in this thread - like where to get the optimized version of Firebird, or how to get java to work. This is all chat about themes and no info.. Boooo! Bad moderators....

November 21st, 2003	Top \| #203
TheBlueRaja BR to Some Joined: April 2002 Location: Fawkirk! Posts: 766 Reputation: 269 Power: 129	whistle Just testing... Congratulations - you passed...

November 21st, 2003	Top \| #205
TheBlueRaja BR to Some Joined: April 2002 Location: Fawkirk! Posts: 766 Reputation: 269 Power: 129	Yeah, You get to prolong my embarassment after I made a fooooool outa myself.

November 24th, 2003	Top \| #208
Elroy Jetson Little Dipper School Joined: October 2002 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 330 Reputation: 10 Power: 117	anyone know if mozilla 1.6a is now based on firebird and thunderbird? or is it still the old (new) code?

November 24th, 2003	Top \| #210
Elroy Jetson Little Dipper School Joined: October 2002 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 330 Reputation: 10 Power: 117	but wasn't the mozilla suite supposed to combine thunderbird and firebird into one app, because the mozilla code was so bloated?

November 24th, 2003	Top \| #211
NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 294	Originally posted by Elroy Jetson but wasn't the mozilla suite supposed to combine thunderbird and firebird into one app, because the mozilla code was so bloated? I heard something similar, but I haven't really installed the Mozilla suite since Firebird 0.5, so I'm really not sure what's included in these recent releases. I'm sure there are people who still have Mozilla installed (I think SPeedY does), so I guess one of them should respond later and answer the Thunderbird question. http://kunal.kundaje.net

November 24th, 2003	Top \| #212
gonaads Beware the G-Man Joined: March 2002 Location: XP-erience, NTFS, OSNN, Bay Area, California Posts: 18,474 Reputation: 4070 Power: 345	Originally posted by NetRyder Thunderbird, afaik, is a completely separate standalone email app. I don't think it's based on Mozilla Mail. Actually it is based off of the Mozilla Mail Client or the code. [quote] Thunderbird is a free, open-source and cross-platform mail client for most operating systems including, but not limited to, Windows, Linux and Macintosh. It is based on the Mozilla codebase. [quote] This software may work well enough to be relied upon as your primary messaging client as it is based off a stable Mozilla 1.5 architecture. However, Mozilla Thunderbird is still a preview release, and therefore several features may not be complete. [quote] Note, though, that Thunderbird is not just the standalone Mozilla mail client. The user interface in Thunderbird differs from Mozilla in a few ways, such as the customizable toolbars. Also, since Thunderbird is smaller than the whole Mozilla suite, it's also faster and easier to use. At least it's going to be soon... They talk more in detail here----> http://www.mozilla.org/projects/thunderbird/index.html *"I play violent video games, I could snap at any second."*

November 24th, 2003	Top \| #213
NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,256 Reputation: 4260 Power: 294	Ah, I stand corrected. I should install the Mozilla suite once again to see what I've missed in it's development since I last had it. http://kunal.kundaje.net

November 24th, 2003	Top \| #214
gonaads Beware the G-Man Joined: March 2002 Location: XP-erience, NTFS, OSNN, Bay Area, California Posts: 18,474 Reputation: 4070 Power: 345	I like the way Firebird is in comparison to the Mozila Suite. Mainly because you can DL Firebird as the basic fast browser and install it and DL the extensions and plugins and features you want to make it the way you want it. Not like Mozilla, that is all combined into one huge pakage. Don't get me wrong I still like Mozilla but the Bird is alot more managable. And with Thunderbird as the stand alone Mail Client I done have to have Mozilla load every time I want to read my e-mail (yeah, I know that the Mail Client opens on it's own, but it still loads alot of Mozilla). Less resources used is always better. Modular is NICE. *"I play violent video games, I could snap at any second."*

November 24th, 2003	Top \| #215
Kevin Ar18 OSNN Senior Addict Joined: February 2002 Posts: 300 Reputation: 0 Power: 125	NTFS Stretching Bug gone The stretching bug has been fixed!! The stretching bug that affected ntfs.org and others sites has been fixed. You can see here: http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215857 You can get the latest nightly of Firebird here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.o.../latest-trunk/ For windows users, get the FirebirdSetup.exe if you like the installer (I thnk this is the Windows installer; I'm not sure though) or get the MozillaFirebird-win32.zip if you like the zip file method. Mozilla Windows users can get the lastest nightly here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.o.../latest-trunk/

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November 24th, 2003	Top \| #216
Elroy Jetson Little Dipper School Joined: October 2002 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 330 Reputation: 10 Power: 117	gonaads - exactly that is why somewhere in the back of my mind, I see to remember that mozilla admitted it was a very messy, big code, and that it wanted to combine the offsprings firebird and thunderbird as stand alone applications into one package. originally, I seem to remember, it was planned for the 1.5 release, but never really happened. SPeedY, you must knopw the answer!

November 24th, 2003	Top \| #217
SPeedY_B I may actually be insane. Joined: March 2002 Location: Midlands, England Posts: 15,800 Reputation: 2877 Power: 307	(The browser component of) Mozilla WILL turn into firebird, it WAS scheduled to happen for rv1.5, it never happened. It's still going to happen, just not as soon as planned. 1. SPeedYB.co.uk 2. CamPortal.co.uk 3. MacIRC.co.uk

November 25th, 2003	Top \| #218
renakuajo Unregistered Posts: n/a	NTFS Stretching Bug gone download it, BUG still present!!!

November 25th, 2003	Top \| #219
muzikool Act your wage. Joined: December 2001 Location: Texas, USA Reputation: Yes, please. Posts: 7,626 Reputation: 2900 Power: 229	Originally posted by renakuajo download it, BUG still present!!! You have to download and install the nightly linked to above... just in case that wasn't clear.

November 25th, 2003	Top \| #220
renakuajo Unregistered Posts: n/a	download it, BUG still present!!! it was clear