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August 15th, 2003

Don't like to hang in forums much, but here is a cool XP tweak I have noticed:

If you use the "DisablePagingExecutive" registry tweak make sure that "Win32PrioritySeperation" has a "26" hexadecimal value. Makes everything nice and smooth.

If someone else has already pointed this out sorry.

o0RaidR0o · August 15th, 2003

Can you please be a little more specific, I did reg search and couldn't find that entry, is in the same string as "DisablePagingExecutive"? [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management]

Is it an entry that needs to be added? And also what does it do if?

**NetRyder** · August 15th, 2003

Can anyone confirm this? It's been a long time since we've seen new tweaks

**yoyo** · August 15th, 2003

Sorry that isn't a tweak but the default Windows XP setting.

Win32PrioritySeparation 0x00000026(38) at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\PriorityControl
means that in system properties > Advanced > Performance > Settings > Advanced "Processor Scheduling" is set to "Adjust for best performance of programs" instead of "Background services".

o0RaidR0o · August 15th, 2003

Got it thanks :-)

**NetRyder** · August 15th, 2003

Thanks for the clarification, yoyo

August 15th, 2003

Sorry Yoyo but the default setting is "2". Background services setting is "18". My setting is "26", big difference.

If you don't like the tweak don't use it, but don't talk about things you don't know about. This isn't a way to encourage people to share their tweaks!!!

August 15th, 2003

Sorry Raid, its under the 'Priority Control' key.

**yoyo** · August 15th, 2003

Ok, you asked to make it complicated. 2 is the same as 26 (dec. 38).

Now, here's the good part: Microsoft managed to preserve the NT 4.0 settings, so that they would have the same effect if applied to the bitmask of a Win2000/XP machine. In fact, the "old" values are still the default settings for this key! See for yourself and open the System Applet. If you have Win2000/XP Professional installed, it should already be set to Adjust for Programs. Now open the registry and browse to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\PriorityControl. (This is where we include the "standard" disclaimer that directly editing the registry—or even looking at it with Regedit.exe—may permanently damage your computer. Other side-effects include male pattern baldness, dry mouth, itchy scalp, recurring migraine headaches, and/or death.) Unless you've changed this previously, the value for Win32PrioritySeparation will be 2 (the old NT 4.0 setting). Now, switch back to the "Performance Options" window, tick the "Adjust for Background Services" option and click Apply. Switch back to the registry editor and hit F5 to refresh it. Now it's 24. This value of 24 has the same effect on processor scheduling as the NT 4.0 value of 0. Now use the GUI to switch it back to "Adjust for Programs" and click Apply. Back to regedit, F5 to refresh, and...tada! It's 38, which has the same effect as the NT 4.0 value of 2.
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August 15th, 2003

Originally posted by yoyo
Sorry that isn't a tweak but the default Windows XP setting.

Win32PrioritySeparation 0x00000026(38) at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\PriorityControl
means that in system properties > Advanced > Performance > Settings > Advanced "Processor Scheduling" is set to "Adjust for best performance of programs" instead of "Background services".

Actually you have it backwards.

"Best performance of Programs" = "2"

"Background Services" = "18"

The "26" hex value is unused and undocumented by Microshaft.
If you don't want my tweaks then tell me, i'll go elsewhere.

August 15th, 2003

It adjusts the Quantum Priority Matrix to share more cpu power with the kernel ok? Instead of arguing why don't you go try it.

**yoyo** · August 15th, 2003

I am trying it constantly, as I said before that is just the default setting.

Did you read the article I linked to?

August 15th, 2003

Yes, but I don't believe it simply because I notice a slight stutter with the default settings in the advance options that disappears using the 26 value while disabling Executive Paging

August 15th, 2003

Sorry, I am used to 15 year-old brats attacking me and I was on the offensive, confounded forums. LOL

**SPeedY_B** · August 15th, 2003

Polygon-Paradox, you're obviously new here, please don't start an argument on your first day of member ship.

I'm not going to side with anyone, but I will say that yoyo has been a member here for a long time and he knows what he is talking about, he is a very knowledgable person.

August 15th, 2003

Cool, I am sure we will get along fabulously then.

Exactly the type of person I enjoy talking to.

o0RaidR0o · August 15th, 2003

I'm no expert at any one thing, however I belong to a myriad of forums and have worked for the man as a systems support specialist for years, and I have learned from various VP's and my memories in speech class ;-), that when one writes for others to read you must write in complete "process" and in 8th grade level.

What I mean by complete process is that you have to imagine what it is that you want your reader to do or understand and write in that fashion. I don't you mean you have to say in this case hit start/run/type regedit, most of us know how to get there if you say "open regedit". However now is where you have to guide your reader once we open regedit, with 'Key" information "sub-keys" etc.

This is no way a critizism or bashing, just a mere helper post. Although I've hanging around NTFS for a longtime, I'm mostly a reader, however I do post from time to time ;-)

August 15th, 2003

Sorry, *processes info* will do for now on.

This place seems really cool, I will be posting new tweaks here.

August 16th, 2003

Originally posted by Polygon-Paradox
Yes, but I don't believe it simply because I notice a slight stutter with the default settings in the advance options that disappears using the 26 value while disabling Executive Paging

What decimal value are you using?

August 16th, 2003

The decimal value is "38".

August 15th, 2003	Top \| #1
Polygon-Paradox Unregistered Posts: n/a	Double Tweak Don't like to hang in forums much, but here is a cool XP tweak I have noticed: If you use the "DisablePagingExecutive" registry tweak make sure that "Win32PrioritySeperation" has a "26" hexadecimal value. Makes everything nice and smooth. If someone else has already pointed this out sorry.
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August 15th, 2003	Top \| #2
o0RaidR0o OSNN Addict Joined: February 2002 Location: S.E. Florida Posts: 155 Reputation: 20 Power: 106	Hi Polygon-Paradox welcome Can you please be a little more specific, I did reg search and couldn't find that entry, is in the same string as "DisablePagingExecutive"? [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management] Is it an entry that needs to be added? And also what does it do if?

August 15th, 2003	Top \| #3
NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,575 Reputation: 4260 Power: 279	Can anyone confirm this? It's been a long time since we've seen new tweaks
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August 15th, 2003	Top \| #6
NetRyder Tech Junkie Joined: April 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 13,575 Reputation: 4260 Power: 279	Thanks for the clarification, yoyo
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August 15th, 2003	Top \| #7
Polygon-Paradox Unregistered Posts: n/a	Sorry Yoyo but the default setting is "2". Background services setting is "18". My setting is "26", big difference. If you don't like the tweak don't use it, but don't talk about things you don't know about. This isn't a way to encourage people to share their tweaks!!!
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August 15th, 2003	Top \| #4
yoyo _________________ Joined: July 2002 Posts: 1,557 Reputation: 160 Power: 115	Sorry that isn't a tweak but the default Windows XP setting. Win32PrioritySeparation 0x00000026(38) at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\PriorityControl means that in system properties > Advanced > Performance > Settings > Advanced "Processor Scheduling" is set to "Adjust for best performance of programs" instead of "Background services".

August 15th, 2003	Top \| #5
o0RaidR0o OSNN Addict Joined: February 2002 Location: S.E. Florida Posts: 155 Reputation: 20 Power: 106	Got it thanks :-)

August 15th, 2003	Top \| #8
Polygon-Paradox Unregistered Posts: n/a	Sorry Raid, its under the 'Priority Control' key.
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August 15th, 2003	Top \| #9
yoyo _________________ Joined: July 2002 Posts: 1,557 Reputation: 160 Power: 115	Ok, you asked to make it complicated. 2 is the same as 26 (dec. 38). Now, here's the good part: Microsoft managed to preserve the NT 4.0 settings, so that they would have the same effect if applied to the bitmask of a Win2000/XP machine. In fact, the "old" values are still the default settings for this key! See for yourself and open the System Applet. If you have Win2000/XP Professional installed, it should already be set to Adjust for Programs. Now open the registry and browse to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\PriorityControl. (This is where we include the "standard" disclaimer that directly editing the registry—or even looking at it with Regedit.exe—may permanently damage your computer. Other side-effects include male pattern baldness, dry mouth, itchy scalp, recurring migraine headaches, and/or death.) Unless you've changed this previously, the value for Win32PrioritySeparation will be 2 (the old NT 4.0 setting). Now, switch back to the "Performance Options" window, tick the "Adjust for Background Services" option and click Apply. Switch back to the registry editor and hit F5 to refresh it. Now it's 24. This value of 24 has the same effect on processor scheduling as the NT 4.0 value of 0. Now use the GUI to switch it back to "Adjust for Programs" and click Apply. Back to regedit, F5 to refresh, and...tada! It's 38, which has the same effect as the NT 4.0 value of 2. http://www.mcpmag.com/columns/articl...itorialsID=405

August 15th, 2003	Top \| #10
Polygon-Paradox Unregistered Posts: n/a	Originally posted by yoyo Sorry that isn't a tweak but the default Windows XP setting. Win32PrioritySeparation 0x00000026(38) at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\PriorityControl means that in system properties > Advanced > Performance > Settings > Advanced "Processor Scheduling" is set to "Adjust for best performance of programs" instead of "Background services". Actually you have it backwards. "Best performance of Programs" = "2" "Background Services" = "18" The "26" hex value is unused and undocumented by Microshaft. If you don't want my tweaks then tell me, i'll go elsewhere.
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August 15th, 2003	Top \| #11
Polygon-Paradox Unregistered Posts: n/a	It adjusts the Quantum Priority Matrix to share more cpu power with the kernel ok? Instead of arguing why don't you go try it.
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August 15th, 2003	Top \| #12
yoyo _________________ Joined: July 2002 Posts: 1,557 Reputation: 160 Power: 115	I am trying it constantly, as I said before that is just the default setting. Did you read the article I linked to?

August 15th, 2003	Top \| #13
Polygon-Paradox Unregistered Posts: n/a	Yes, but I don't believe it simply because I notice a slight stutter with the default settings in the advance options that disappears using the 26 value while disabling Executive Paging
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August 15th, 2003	Top \| #14
Polygon-Paradox Unregistered Posts: n/a	Sorry, I am used to 15 year-old brats attacking me and I was on the offensive, confounded forums. LOL
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August 15th, 2003	Top \| #16
Polygon-Paradox Unregistered Posts: n/a	Cool, I am sure we will get along fabulously then. Exactly the type of person I enjoy talking to.
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August 15th, 2003	Top \| #17
o0RaidR0o OSNN Addict Joined: February 2002 Location: S.E. Florida Posts: 155 Reputation: 20 Power: 106	Posting is an art form :-) I'm no expert at any one thing, however I belong to a myriad of forums and have worked for the man as a systems support specialist for years, and I have learned from various VP's and my memories in speech class ;-), that when one writes for others to read you must write in complete "process" and in 8th grade level. What I mean by complete process is that you have to imagine what it is that you want your reader to do or understand and write in that fashion. I don't you mean you have to say in this case hit start/run/type regedit, most of us know how to get there if you say "open regedit". However now is where you have to guide your reader once we open regedit, with 'Key" information "sub-keys" etc. This is no way a critizism or bashing, just a mere helper post. Although I've hanging around NTFS for a longtime, I'm mostly a reader, however I do post from time to time ;-)

August 15th, 2003	Top \| #18
Polygon-Paradox Unregistered Posts: n/a	Sorry, processes info will do for now on. This place seems really cool, I will be posting new tweaks here.
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August 16th, 2003	Top \| #19
B~B Unregistered Posts: n/a	Originally posted by Polygon-Paradox Yes, but I don't believe it simply because I notice a slight stutter with the default settings in the advance options that disappears using the 26 value while disabling Executive Paging What decimal value are you using?
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August 16th, 2003	Top \| #20
Polygon-Paradox Unregistered Posts: n/a	The decimal value is "38".
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