nvidia Drivers

o0RaidR0o · June 26th, 2003

I use nVidia's GeForce4 Ti 4600, and the currently installed drivers are 40.72.

My question is what is the opinion concerning the constantly released updated nVidia drivers and whether or not should one update to each release?

Thx ahead.

chaos945 · June 28th, 2003

The drivers at the link below are not too bad, saves me a bit of time since they are 'pre-tweaked' and are updated only with major NVIDIA releases, thus (assuming official releases are good) keep speed, quality and stability to the maximum.

If your a 'speed tweaking freak' or just want to experiment with new features that beta drivers may or may not have, then by all means download the new drivers that seem to never stop pouring in, but if you do want speed, quality and stability then just use official releases.

Omegadrive's Official Homepage

**Sazar** · June 28th, 2003

Originally posted by chaos945
The drivers at the link below are not too bad, saves me a bit of time since they are 'pre-tweaked' and are updated only with major NVIDIA releases, thus (assuming official releases are good) keep speed, quality and stability to the maximum.

If your a 'speed tweaking freak' or just want to experiment with new features that beta drivers may or may not have, then by all means download the new drivers that seem to never stop pouring in, but if you do want speed, quality and stability then just use official releases.

Omegadrive's Official Homepage

fyi

omega has been issued a cease and desist order from nvidia's lawyers to stop putting out OMEGA's of their drivers..

**Bman** · June 28th, 2003

Its not that much of a trouble, yea they come out alot of the time. What i do is download the latest one, then do i what i usually do. Then after awhile, i think to myself "hey i havent got my video drivers for a while" so then i go and get the newest ones out there! Doing this is much easier.

versionfiv · June 28th, 2003

Wow. Nvidia is nuts.

chaos945 · June 28th, 2003

Originally posted by Sazar
fyi

omega has been issued a cease and desist order from nvidia's lawyers to stop putting out OMEGA's of their drivers..

No kidding! Damn, must have missed that article. Too bad, the Omega Drivers are not too shabby.

**Sazar** · June 28th, 2003

Originally posted by chaos945
No kidding! Damn, must have missed that article. Too bad, the Omega Drivers are not too shabby.

not an article..

go to the DH forums.. there were rumours and Zardon himself posted saying he is unlikely to be making omegas of dets anymore due to behind the scenes reasons

Gus K · June 30th, 2003

and whether or not should one update to each release?

I've pretty much stopped updating them. Seems to be alot of hassle, with no real difference between any of them. If all seems right, why bother?

**Alex_is_Axel** · June 30th, 2003

whats up with 44.03?

Im using the 44.03 drivers and i personally think that every time there is an upgrade.. most of the time, there is a boost in performance from the card but maybe thats because im using Geforce 2 MX 400 ::confused:

Alex

Gus K · June 30th, 2003

there is a boost in performance from the card but maybe thats because im using Geforce 2 MX 400 :

Doesn't sound right, most of the so-called improvements are for the GF4's, they pretty much gave up worrying about cards from 2 generations ago.

**Alex_is_Axel** · June 30th, 2003

yea but surely if they're trying to improve GF4 cards, there will be some help in the drivers relating to the GF2's considering same drivers are being used... but i dunno, ive just noticed improvements which keeps me happy for a while longer

**coathanger007** · July 3rd, 2003

Ahhh gone are the days of optimized 3dfx drivers which really added features and performance. With Nvidia, best bet is too stick with the originals. Not many mods out there.

**LeeJend** · July 4th, 2003

The last, best I saw was the 41.09. 40.72 was a good driver too.

Everything since has been an attempty to squeeze a few more points out of the benchmarks. Real game performance has not improved for a long time. The 40.72 and 41.09 seemed to improve texture quality some on my GE3 card.

I think the 4 designation means they are optimised for the GE4 series.

SAZAR?

Silvio · July 19th, 2003

Hey Alex is Axel, im using an old Gforce 2 too, and i ve just heard that its better to use an old driver better than a new one for this "old" card, could this be true?
Its logical to think that if its new it ll bring improvements, but in the other hand ,its logical to think that those new drivers would be made with the new cards in mind.
I always have the last drivers, but now im thinking i will try putting an old one to check.
So, i dont know...
Any one do?

**Alex_is_Axel** · July 19th, 2003

personally, ive found that over time, my Geforce 2 has performed better as the new drivers are being released but that my be my opinion. I like the new drivers and i hope to see them keep on comming

hehe

**Alex_is_Axel** · July 19th, 2003

However, trying out some older drivers could be interesting to see.. but if you've noticed on the new drivers, it still states that the Geforce 2 Series are still supported with them :confused:

**Sazar** · July 19th, 2003

Originally posted by LeeJend
The last, best I saw was the 41.09. 40.72 was a good driver too.

Everything since has been an attempty to squeeze a few more points out of the benchmarks. Real game performance has not improved for a long time. The 40.72 and 41.09 seemed to improve texture quality some on my GE3 card.

I think the 4 designation means they are optimised for the GE4 series.

SAZAR?

eh ?

nah the det versions are unlikely to be based on version of the graphics core... may be possible lol.. but I dunno... I think its more to do with the feature set each brings...

the 50.xx series is on the sidelines waiting to debut... dunno what this will bring to the table but I sure as hell hope it enables most of the features in the FX gpu's

**coathanger007** · July 20th, 2003

44.90 drivers are the fastest that I've benchmarked. Omega drivers not very stable on overclocked card and perform much slower than 44.71 and 44.90. Wish there was a substantial performance increase rather than petty insignificant tweaks - driver performance for geforce 4 and below pretty much can't be improved any further - statistically impossible.

July 20th, 2003

Isn't the 44.03 drivers aimed mostly for the FX card?
As it is only WHQL:ed for them.... :confused:

Quote:
"Delivers an incredible 30% increase in performance over previous Detonator 40 drivers**

The industry’s best Microsoft® DirectX® 9 support
Ultimate “The Way It’s Meant to be Played” experience
-------
* 44.03 is WHQL Certified for the GeForce FX family of GPUs
** Performance results based upon GeForce FX 5600 Ultra running UnrealTournament 2003 Antalus flyby." - End Quote.

But then... with the 50.xx drivers they might also let go of the GeForce 4 cards....

August 6th, 2003

Originally posted by coathanger007
. Wish there was a substantial performance increase rather than petty insignificant tweaks - driver performance for geforce 4 and below pretty much can't be improved any further - statistically impossible.

what is the point in saying you wish they would bring out a substantial proformance increase when you go on to say it is impossible, allso I benched the 44.90 on 4 different systems all running 2500+ bartons and ti4200 and it was getting 1000 less than the 43.45 dets but we can only go of our own systems and they all profer there own set of driver combos.

June 26th, 2003	Top \| #1
o0RaidR0o OSNN Addict Joined: February 2002 Location: S.E. Florida Posts: 119 Reputation: 20 Power: 127	nvidia Drivers I use nVidia's GeForce4 Ti 4600, and the currently installed drivers are 40.72. My question is what is the opinion concerning the constantly released updated nVidia drivers and whether or not should one update to each release? Thx ahead.

June 28th, 2003	Top \| #3
Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,888 Reputation: 4110 Power: 313	Originally posted by chaos945 The drivers at the link below are not too bad, saves me a bit of time since they are 'pre-tweaked' and are updated only with major NVIDIA releases, thus (assuming official releases are good) keep speed, quality and stability to the maximum. If your a 'speed tweaking freak' or just want to experiment with new features that beta drivers may or may not have, then by all means download the new drivers that seem to never stop pouring in, but if you do want speed, quality and stability then just use official releases. Omegadrive's Official Homepage fyi omega has been issued a cease and desist order from nvidia's lawyers to stop putting out OMEGA's of their drivers.. Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

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chaos945 OSNN Senior Addict Joined: February 2003 Posts: 932 Reputation: 300 Power: 126	Originally posted by Sazar fyi omega has been issued a cease and desist order from nvidia's lawyers to stop putting out OMEGA's of their drivers.. No kidding! Damn, must have missed that article. Too bad, the Omega Drivers are not too shabby.

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Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,888 Reputation: 4110 Power: 313	Originally posted by chaos945 No kidding! Damn, must have missed that article. Too bad, the Omega Drivers are not too shabby. not an article.. go to the DH forums.. there were rumours and Zardon himself posted saying he is unlikely to be making omegas of dets anymore due to behind the scenes reasons Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

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Alex_is_Axel .:: FTPAlex ::. Joined: June 2002 Location: Cheshire, United Kingdom Posts: 1,156 Reputation: 10 Power: 133	whats up with 44.03? Im using the 44.03 drivers and i personally think that every time there is an upgrade.. most of the time, there is a boost in performance from the card but maybe thats because im using Geforce 2 MX 400 ::confused: Alex .:: My PCSpecs ::. .:: My Site ::.

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June 28th, 2003	Top \| #2
chaos945 OSNN Senior Addict Joined: February 2003 Posts: 932 Reputation: 300 Power: 126	The drivers at the link below are not too bad, saves me a bit of time since they are 'pre-tweaked' and are updated only with major NVIDIA releases, thus (assuming official releases are good) keep speed, quality and stability to the maximum. If your a 'speed tweaking freak' or just want to experiment with new features that beta drivers may or may not have, then by all means download the new drivers that seem to never stop pouring in, but if you do want speed, quality and stability then just use official releases. Omegadrive's Official Homepage

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Bman OSNN Designer Joined: July 2002 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 8,722 Blog Entries: 106 Reputation: 1386 Power: 221	Its not that much of a trouble, yea they come out alot of the time. What i do is download the latest one, then do i what i usually do. Then after awhile, i think to myself "hey i havent got my video drivers for a while" so then i go and get the newest ones out there! Doing this is much easier.

June 28th, 2003	Top \| #5
versionfiv OSNN Addict Joined: January 2003 Location: Washington DC Posts: 132 Reputation: 0 Power: 115	Wow. Nvidia is nuts.

June 30th, 2003	Top \| #8
Gus K NTFS abuser Joined: November 2002 Location: USA Posts: 380 Reputation: 30 Power: 120	and whether or not should one update to each release? I've pretty much stopped updating them. Seems to be alot of hassle, with no real difference between any of them. If all seems right, why bother?

June 30th, 2003	Top \| #10
Gus K NTFS abuser Joined: November 2002 Location: USA Posts: 380 Reputation: 30 Power: 120	there is a boost in performance from the card but maybe thats because im using Geforce 2 MX 400 : Doesn't sound right, most of the so-called improvements are for the GF4's, they pretty much gave up worrying about cards from 2 generations ago.

June 30th, 2003	Top \| #11
Alex_is_Axel .:: FTPAlex ::. Joined: June 2002 Location: Cheshire, United Kingdom Posts: 1,156 Reputation: 10 Power: 133	yea but surely if they're trying to improve GF4 cards, there will be some help in the drivers relating to the GF2's considering same drivers are being used... but i dunno, ive just noticed improvements which keeps me happy for a while longer .:: My PCSpecs ::. .:: My Site ::.

July 3rd, 2003	Top \| #12
coathanger007 Tomorrow Tweaking Today Joined: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,516 Reputation: 240 Power: 127	Ahhh gone are the days of optimized 3dfx drivers which really added features and performance. With Nvidia, best bet is too stick with the originals. Not many mods out there.

July 4th, 2003	Top \| #13
LeeJend OSNN Veteran Addict Joined: January 2003 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 5,261 Reputation: 3386 Power: 199	The last, best I saw was the 41.09. 40.72 was a good driver too. Everything since has been an attempty to squeeze a few more points out of the benchmarks. Real game performance has not improved for a long time. The 40.72 and 41.09 seemed to improve texture quality some on my GE3 card. I think the 4 designation means they are optimised for the GE4 series. SAZAR? Thought for the new millenium: In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates? - Open Office - Firefox - Thunderbird - Gimp -Ubuntu - Red Hat -

July 19th, 2003	Top \| #14
Silvio Argentinean Dogo Joined: March 2004 Posts: 156 Reputation: 20 Power: 101	Hey Alex is Axel, im using an old Gforce 2 too, and i ve just heard that its better to use an old driver better than a new one for this "old" card, could this be true? Its logical to think that if its new it ll bring improvements, but in the other hand ,its logical to think that those new drivers would be made with the new cards in mind. I always have the last drivers, but now im thinking i will try putting an old one to check. So, i dont know... Any one do? "Wanna make your computer go really fast?...Throw it out the window"

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Alex_is_Axel .:: FTPAlex ::. Joined: June 2002 Location: Cheshire, United Kingdom Posts: 1,156 Reputation: 10 Power: 133	personally, ive found that over time, my Geforce 2 has performed better as the new drivers are being released but that my be my opinion. I like the new drivers and i hope to see them keep on comming hehe .:: My PCSpecs ::. .:: My Site ::.

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Alex_is_Axel .:: FTPAlex ::. Joined: June 2002 Location: Cheshire, United Kingdom Posts: 1,156 Reputation: 10 Power: 133	However, trying out some older drivers could be interesting to see.. but if you've noticed on the new drivers, it still states that the Geforce 2 Series are still supported with them :confused: .:: My PCSpecs ::. .:: My Site ::.

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Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,888 Reputation: 4110 Power: 313	Originally posted by LeeJend The last, best I saw was the 41.09. 40.72 was a good driver too. Everything since has been an attempty to squeeze a few more points out of the benchmarks. Real game performance has not improved for a long time. The 40.72 and 41.09 seemed to improve texture quality some on my GE3 card. I think the 4 designation means they are optimised for the GE4 series. SAZAR? eh ? nah the det versions are unlikely to be based on version of the graphics core... may be possible lol.. but I dunno... I think its more to do with the feature set each brings... the 50.xx series is on the sidelines waiting to debut... dunno what this will bring to the table but I sure as hell hope it enables most of the features in the FX gpu's Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

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coathanger007 Tomorrow Tweaking Today Joined: May 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,516 Reputation: 240 Power: 127	44.90 drivers are the fastest that I've benchmarked. Omega drivers not very stable on overclocked card and perform much slower than 44.71 and 44.90. Wish there was a substantial performance increase rather than petty insignificant tweaks - driver performance for geforce 4 and below pretty much can't be improved any further - statistically impossible.

July 20th, 2003	Top \| #19
Nedreplan Unregistered Posts: n/a	Isn't the 44.03 drivers aimed mostly for the FX card? As it is only WHQL:ed for them.... :confused: Quote: "Delivers an incredible 30% increase in performance over previous Detonator 40 drivers** The industry’s best Microsoft® DirectX® 9 support Ultimate “The Way It’s Meant to be Played” experience ------- * 44.03 is WHQL Certified for the GeForce FX family of GPUs ** Performance results based upon GeForce FX 5600 Ultra running UnrealTournament 2003 Antalus flyby." - End Quote. But then... with the 50.xx drivers they might also let go of the GeForce 4 cards....

August 6th, 2003	Top \| #20
Genius_overide Unregistered Posts: n/a	Originally posted by coathanger007 . Wish there was a substantial performance increase rather than petty insignificant tweaks - driver performance for geforce 4 and below pretty much can't be improved any further - statistically impossible. what is the point in saying you wish they would bring out a substantial proformance increase when you go on to say it is impossible, allso I benched the 44.90 on 4 different systems all running 2500+ bartons and ti4200 and it was getting 1000 less than the 43.45 dets but we can only go of our own systems and they all profer there own set of driver combos.