Microsoft Just Don't Give A F***

**Lee** · April 16th, 2004

Read the story on link posted, it makes me want to throw up at M$.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/3630649.stm

**perris** · April 16th, 2004

I think gates will take care the chap in the end

(take that any way you want)

**Xie** · April 16th, 2004

Whats new? Outside companys find most of Microsofts bugs for them w/out reward I think .. what makes this kid different?

**Maveric169** · April 16th, 2004

Well they could have at least cut the kid a check for a few hundred/thousand bucks to pay for his time. I personally would have held them hostage over it and negociated a fee for my services.

**Sazar** · April 16th, 2004

Originally Posted by Maveric169

Well they could have at least cut the kid a check for a few hundred/thousand bucks to pay for his time. I personally would have held them hostage over it and negociated a fee for my services.

in what possible way would you endear yourself to people if you do things like this..

everyone has a job to do... they are paid for their job... if in the course of their job they find something and choose to share the info so be it... they are already likely being compensated in one form or another...

what the kid did was good and right and he's made the news... and he's worked with m$... that in itself has raised his networth to anyone looking to hire him...

**Maveric169** · April 17th, 2004

Originally Posted by Sazar

in what possible way would you endear yourself to people if you do things like this..

everyone has a job to do... they are paid for their job... if in the course of their job they find something and choose to share the info so be it... they are already likely being compensated in one form or another...

what the kid did was good and right and he's made the news... and he's worked with m$... that in itself has raised his networth to anyone looking to hire him...

It would be one thing if the kid notified M$ and pointed out and proved that there was a security problem, but he worked with them for 6 MONTHS. But I suppose it is the kids progitive.

**Electronic Punk** · April 17th, 2004

It's something to put on the CV / resume!!

E1V3N · April 17th, 2004

Originally Posted by Lee

Read the story on link posted, it makes me want to throw up at M$.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/3630649.stm

Who Care's? People take things too seriously these days.Do you want Microsoft to give him some pocket money ($100 million) Besides he said he was happy he got to be mentioned by the almighty M$

translucenthoughts · April 17th, 2004

If you are in the software business, you work with the vendors of the software your company uses regularly, helping them to find the bugs in their software when you realize the 'bugginess' is their problem, not yours. You don't get extra compensation for doing this, its just part of your job....

**Maveric169** · April 17th, 2004

Originally Posted by Electronic Punk

It's something to put on the CV / resume!!

Well that is something! One hell of a big something too! I would be impressed by it if I was a hiring manager. Not too many people can say they have been specifically by name given credit for identifing and helping fix a major security flaw in a giant software makers code at the age of 19 none the less.

So in a way they might have givin him more that way than anything other way they could have. I mean if I really think about it, would I rather have received say $5,000 and nothing else for this, or a by name mention of my accomplishment by M$ in a public form of media.

Yea, I think I would take the by name mention of my accomplishment by M$ in a public form of media. That has to be worth a bit for the next job.

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Lee OSNN Proxy Joined: January 2004 Location: Kings Hill, West Malling, Kent, England. Posts: 3,330 Reputation: 1020 Power: 145	Microsoft Just Don't Give A F*** Read the story on link posted, it makes me want to throw up at M$. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/3630649.stm

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Maveric169 The Voices Talk to Me Joined: December 2002 Location: Elkhart, IN Posts: 1,148 Reputation: 130 Power: 128	Well they could have at least cut the kid a check for a few hundred/thousand bucks to pay for his time. I personally would have held them hostage over it and negociated a fee for my services. Disclaimer: Past performace and emerging trends are not always accurate predictors for future events. Consult your employeer reguarding overtime possibilies incase I am wrong and you have to buy more stuff. AMD Athlon 64 3000+ \| Gigabyte GA-K8NS Mobo \| 1 Gig Crucial XMS Ram \| Maxtor 200GB Sata Drive 8Meg Cache Primary Drive \| 60GB Backup Drive \| ATI 9550 \| Antec Trio 430W PSU \| Custom Case *Check out my new website* *http://13-dragons.net/*

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Sazar F@H - Is it in you? Joined: April 2002 Location: Between Austin and Tampa Posts: 14,888 Reputation: 4110 Power: 313	Originally Posted by Maveric169 Well they could have at least cut the kid a check for a few hundred/thousand bucks to pay for his time. I personally would have held them hostage over it and negociated a fee for my services. in what possible way would you endear yourself to people if you do things like this.. everyone has a job to do... they are paid for their job... if in the course of their job they find something and choose to share the info so be it... they are already likely being compensated in one form or another... what the kid did was good and right and he's made the news... and he's worked with m$... that in itself has raised his networth to anyone looking to hire him... Help to find cures for Alzheimer's, Mad Cow (BSE), CJD, ALS, Huntington's, Parkinson's disease, and many Cancers. Folding@Home, is it in you?

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Maveric169 The Voices Talk to Me Joined: December 2002 Location: Elkhart, IN Posts: 1,148 Reputation: 130 Power: 128	Originally Posted by Sazar in what possible way would you endear yourself to people if you do things like this.. everyone has a job to do... they are paid for their job... if in the course of their job they find something and choose to share the info so be it... they are already likely being compensated in one form or another... what the kid did was good and right and he's made the news... and he's worked with m$... that in itself has raised his networth to anyone looking to hire him... It would be one thing if the kid notified M$ and pointed out and proved that there was a security problem, but he worked with them for 6 MONTHS. But I suppose it is the kids progitive. Disclaimer: Past performace and emerging trends are not always accurate predictors for future events. Consult your employeer reguarding overtime possibilies incase I am wrong and you have to buy more stuff. AMD Athlon 64 3000+ \| Gigabyte GA-K8NS Mobo \| 1 Gig Crucial XMS Ram \| Maxtor 200GB Sata Drive 8Meg Cache Primary Drive \| 60GB Backup Drive \| ATI 9550 \| Antec Trio 430W PSU \| Custom Case *Check out my new website* *http://13-dragons.net/*

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perris OSNN Godlike Veteran Joined: January 2002 Location: new york Posts: 12,258 Reputation: 4333 Power: 291	I think gates will take care the chap in the end (take that any way you want)

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E1V3N OSNN Junior Addict Joined: April 2004 Posts: 2 Reputation: 0 Power: 0	Originally Posted by Lee Read the story on link posted, it makes me want to throw up at M$. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/3630649.stm Who Care's? People take things too seriously these days.Do you want Microsoft to give him some pocket money ($100 million) Besides he said he was happy he got to be mentioned by the almighty M$

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translucenthoughts OSNN Junior Addict Joined: April 2004 Posts: 3 Reputation: 0 Power: 0	If you are in the software business, you work with the vendors of the software your company uses regularly, helping them to find the bugs in their software when you realize the 'bugginess' is their problem, not yours. You don't get extra compensation for doing this, its just part of your job....

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Maveric169 The Voices Talk to Me Joined: December 2002 Location: Elkhart, IN Posts: 1,148 Reputation: 130 Power: 128	Originally Posted by Electronic Punk It's something to put on the CV / resume!! Well that is something! One hell of a big something too! I would be impressed by it if I was a hiring manager. Not too many people can say they have been specifically by name given credit for identifing and helping fix a major security flaw in a giant software makers code at the age of 19 none the less. So in a way they might have givin him more that way than anything other way they could have. I mean if I really think about it, would I rather have received say $5,000 and nothing else for this, or a by name mention of my accomplishment by M$ in a public form of media. Yea, I think I would take the by name mention of my accomplishment by M$ in a public form of media. That has to be worth a bit for the next job. Disclaimer: Past performace and emerging trends are not always accurate predictors for future events. Consult your employeer reguarding overtime possibilies incase I am wrong and you have to buy more stuff. AMD Athlon 64 3000+ \| Gigabyte GA-K8NS Mobo \| 1 Gig Crucial XMS Ram \| Maxtor 200GB Sata Drive 8Meg Cache Primary Drive \| 60GB Backup Drive \| ATI 9550 \| Antec Trio 430W PSU \| Custom Case *Check out my new website* *http://13-dragons.net/*

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